Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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Of all of the word crimes out there, how does one manage to confuse lose with loose? WTAF
illini80
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I’m probably missing a small number of posts I’d like to read, but at this point I wait until late in the day and just go to the end of the thread. Saves what little is left of my sanity. Lol
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Basketball and basketball stadiums have come a long way since then. Side note - things I don’t miss from the 70’s: knee high socks and short shorts.
Daryl Dawkins?
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Invisible and Bulletproof
- Miracle Mile
Whatever works for you, illini81.
"Is that the most likely outside of Illinois?" - That implies we are #1 or #2.
I'm quite aware that those lists are old and that since hiring Antigua he has some interest in us. That said, he has interest in at least four other schools, as well as the NBL. And of course, we don't even know if he's reclassifying.
I mean maybe. But he would also be reclassing and haven't seen a ton guys make an impact as freshman when they do so.
For example, Ive seen Riley ranked between 10-20 nationally for 25. Boswell was a top 15 recruit before reclassing and he didn't play much as a freshman and had an up and down sophomore season before transferring. Now, two points in Riley's favor are that he is already 18(typical age of an incoming freshman) and he's a lot taller which I think helps make the transition easier.
However with all that being said, Tre White and Ty Rodgers were also pretty heralded recruits and a couple years older. Tre is already 21 and was a top 30ish recruit nationally, Ty is 20 and was a top 50-60 recruit. Humrichous obviously came out of obscurity but will be 22 in July and has played 4 seasons of college ball.
I know the insiders on this board are very high on Riley but recruiting rankings cease to matter the 2nd you step on campus and in my opinion he would have his work cut out for him competing against Ty, Tre, and Ben(Booth too honestly).
Fess Hawkins walked so Kofi could run.Guys… guys…. It begins and ends with Halim Abdullah.
It depends upon how much improvement Ty and Tre show. If we were to achieve that situation, you start the player that gives you the best chance to win. Given how much improvement that we saw from Ty last season, I can see him coming to camp having developed an outside shooting game. If Riley were to have his challenges on defense as a freshman, I could definitely see Ty starting over Riley if Ty shows up with a viable shooting game.
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Just meant to ask if Zona was the biggest threat to prevent us from getting him.
And honestly...
Is it truly that unrealistic to say that we are #1 or #2?
With Orlando and the crew...I can def. see our sell being more intriguing than some of the schools on his list...
And honestly...
Is it truly that unrealistic to say that we are #1 or #2?
With Orlando and the crew...I can def. see our sell being more intriguing than some of the schools on his list...
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I'd be happy with a mid-range game. Easier for him to develop that first. When he gets confident with 6-15 ft shots, then move on to 3-pt shooting.
If Ty has a consistent 10 to 15 foot jump shot this year he will be all big ten.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
I’ve seen others touch on it, the problem is, you don’t even want good shooters shooting from 15ft. If Ty’s taking that shot this year, the offense gets a lot worse.
Does it? It allows him to operate in the pick and roll & makes his man stay within 15 ft instead of full drop coverage.
Plus it is an absolute must if he wants a career in basketball, so it would be nice to see for him.
I doubt it's much easier to be 50% from 15ft (in a game) than it is to be 33.3% from 3 unless the player's form severely limits their range. In which case they probably don't want to reinforce that form anyway.
Edit: I know 50% from mid-range and 33% from 3 aren't efficient; they're just round points of comparison
If I'm Ty I'm working on developing a floater, and shooting free throws. If he can shoot 50% from the floor and 75% at the line with his ability to guard and rebound he's an NBA player.
Just meant to ask if Zona was the biggest threat to prevent us from getting him.
And honestly...
Is it truly that unrealistic to say that we are #1 or #2?
With Orlando and the crew...I can def. see our sell being more intriguing than some of the schools on his list...
My reasoning is if he exclusively works on shooting from 3-pt range, he's making the process more difficult for himself. Develop a touch from 6-15 ft, then gradually work on further out. You can't start running if you don't walk first.
None of this past year's Illini with any reasonable shot volume exceeded 42% on mid-range jumpers:
It's only a good shot if you have no other options, you might get fouled, or it's the end of the game and you only need 1 or 2 points. Even "keeping the defense honest" sounds like a bad reason, since they'll happily let you take that shot over and over and live with the consequences, so it isn't forcing an adjustment.
I just don’t think it’s gonna happen. It would be one thing if Ty was a subpar shooter, like a 27% from 3 kinda guy. Hoping those types of shooters live in the gym and improve their percentage is realistic. Since Ty literally doesn't shoot whatsoever I just don’t think it’s realistic at this point in his development to expect any sort of reliable jumper from anywhere on the floor.
I see what you're saying and I fear that may be the case. OTOH it's not impossible. Where there's a will there's a way. His most effective way to get there is to work with a shooting coach and do lots of repetition. Start with 6 ft - 9 ft shots, extend to 10-14 ft shots and and eventually add 3 pt shots. Hundreds of shots a day. If he wants to play in the NBA he pretty much has to do it.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Hey now. I grew up in the '70s wearing those tube socks.
I'll grant you the latter (stadiums). Not so sure about the former (the game itself). I watched the Bill Russell documentary last year; those Celtics teams of the '60s seemed to match or exceed the best of the NBA today. Celtics, Knicks, Lakers of the late '60s were stratospheric in quality.
BTW, regarding that photo of Moses in the Salt Palace: the ABA ran on a shoe string but the Utah Stars drew well in that arena, sometimes the 12k+ capacity, and the Jazz played there until the early '90s after relocating from New Orleans in the late '70s.
My earliest NBA memories (~ 1971 or so) were of watching the Bullets v. Knicks epic playoff battles on TV. Baltimore (before the franchise moved to DC) played in the Baltimore Civic Center, which still stands. Check out a YouTube video of those games. That arena is a complete anachronism. (And those Bullets unis were absolutely bad a$$. I've still got basketball cards from that era with guys like Phil Chenier and Wes Unseld rockin' that kit.)
I’m not holding my breath expecting Ty to make huge strides with his shooting, but it’s not unheard of for a big (back to basket guy) to expand his shooting range out to 10-12 feet as he develops. So I could see that happening. Much more unlikely that he develops a 3-point shot this offseason IMO.
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