But they’re not in Kansas anymore (OZ).
Terrence Shannon Jr. Found Not Guilty
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Illwinsagain
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What is this video evidence? I know the bar's cameras didn't see what happened..Finally! ESPN:
NBA draft prospect Shannon not guilty of rape
Former Illinois star Terrence Shannon Jr. was found not guilty of felony rape and aggravated sexual assault Thursday by a jury in Kansas.www.espn.com
"Last week, his attorneys filed a motion to use video evidence to support the possibility of a mistaken identity case. "
I think that’s in reference to the video showing that Arterio Morris was also in that location that night at the same time.
After the bologna they put him through. Why wouldn't he
sacraig
- The desert
But they’re not in Kansas anymore (OZ).
I have followed your lead. I will never again listen to this sanctimonious, self-righteous little know-it-all.
Former Illinois guard Terrence Shannon Jr. found not guilty in rape trial
Shannon, a potential first-round NBA Draft pick, testified in a Kansas court Thursday.
www.nytimes.com
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
This is an incredibly weak draft. A lot of teams are going to look foolish if they pass him up. He was a monster before. With this chip on his shoulder, look the absolute heck out. Nobody is going to work harder.
What a great tribute to a great guy. Only know him through his Illini career. Always struck me as a genuine human being. So happy this joke of a trial is over. Gi do great things TSJ. Will always be one of my favorite ILINI.
This case is a cautionary tale to all young men, especially those who are exceptional athletes. You don't have to be guilty to have your life ruined. Having good character (so people will go to bat for you) and staying out of situations where you can be accused of wrongdoing, can help protect you from ultimately losing a scholarship or worse, but it is no guarantee that accusations won't be made. The more careful you are, the better your odds. In this case, TSJ was known as a high character guy and acted in what I would consider a prudent manner by having people with him. Thankfully, he has seemingly avoided any long term effects of these allegations.
I am sad that we didn't get to know what would have happened for the last Illini season has he not been suspended. I am sad that he did not receive the recognition he deserved. But I am glad that he persevered and has now prevailed.
Thankfully the jury got it right. I am a lawyer, and I have had juries make decisions that were incomprehensible to either party and were based upon some misconception of what seemed like an obvious fact (which we learned once they explained their decision in interviews after the trial). These were relatively complex civil cases but the mistakes were of obvious facts to the parties and the lawyers. I rarely ever request a jury because in commercial law cases (contracts, real estate, corporate issues), I prefer predictability over the possibility of a lopsided wildcard verdict in my client's favor. I know criminal cases are different, and the requirement of a unanimous jury verdict is a major protection for the accused. But I was still very nervous for TSJ. You never really know what you are going to get with a jury.
Well, now TSJ can get on with his life. I don't expect any lawsuits against the accuser or the DA's office. As tempting as that might be, civil lawsuits are generally not brought for justice, they are brought for money. I just don't see a likely scenario for a recovery of significant damages from anyone involved, but I don't know the law of Kansas, and that is a little out of my area of practice. The one 1983 claim I brought over a repeated refusal to rule on my clients' plat application (of land which she lost to foreclosure as a result) was dismissed with the judge quoting JFK to the effect that life wasn't fair. My advice to TSJ would be to just let sleeping dogs lie and focus on the positive things in his life - he has a lot to look forward to. Live in the present, not the past. We as fans should probably do the same.
I am sad that we didn't get to know what would have happened for the last Illini season has he not been suspended. I am sad that he did not receive the recognition he deserved. But I am glad that he persevered and has now prevailed.
Thankfully the jury got it right. I am a lawyer, and I have had juries make decisions that were incomprehensible to either party and were based upon some misconception of what seemed like an obvious fact (which we learned once they explained their decision in interviews after the trial). These were relatively complex civil cases but the mistakes were of obvious facts to the parties and the lawyers. I rarely ever request a jury because in commercial law cases (contracts, real estate, corporate issues), I prefer predictability over the possibility of a lopsided wildcard verdict in my client's favor. I know criminal cases are different, and the requirement of a unanimous jury verdict is a major protection for the accused. But I was still very nervous for TSJ. You never really know what you are going to get with a jury.
Well, now TSJ can get on with his life. I don't expect any lawsuits against the accuser or the DA's office. As tempting as that might be, civil lawsuits are generally not brought for justice, they are brought for money. I just don't see a likely scenario for a recovery of significant damages from anyone involved, but I don't know the law of Kansas, and that is a little out of my area of practice. The one 1983 claim I brought over a repeated refusal to rule on my clients' plat application (of land which she lost to foreclosure as a result) was dismissed with the judge quoting JFK to the effect that life wasn't fair. My advice to TSJ would be to just let sleeping dogs lie and focus on the positive things in his life - he has a lot to look forward to. Live in the present, not the past. We as fans should probably do the same.
ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
Yes, but there is a strong suspicion in my mind that the university played a role in orchestrating his return.
The Lawrence Times article from today recapping the full trial is great. They've had very good, balanced reporting throughout with no paywall.
https://lawrencekstimes.com/2024/06/13/shannon-trial-verdict/
https://lawrencekstimes.com/2024/06/13/shannon-trial-verdict/
Small addendum
#sixseasonsandamovie
Ryllini
- Lombard
I don't think the University had a choice. I am under the assumption everyone was on board. This situation was a needless tightrope to walk because of some poor decisions made that night and I think everyone on ours and TJ's side handled it to perfection.
TentakilRex
- Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
Sorry I have no faith in the media apologizing to TSJ, hell Malika Andrews is already writing her draft commentary on him.
Always felt like most of the score was anti Illini. Bozo Bernstein and his side kick Florence Holmes are first class jackasses.
There was a strategic plan in place for a work around to deal with those serious charges.
I agree, despite my bias towards Terrence, this one is all the way over towards TSJ on the
TSJ------------------------- OJ scale of if they did it.
(***ducks***…)
On day one he made it known he didn't do it, didn't know the individual. There would be no plea and asked others not to offer a settlement.
I hope everyone understands the stakes here. Although sometimes I'm not so sure. Obviously basketball recruiting and cottage cheese are not the most important arguments in the world when you compare them to serious criminal allegations. You have to escape from it all somehow.
ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
There are so many emotions around this. It is sad, if the alleged victim is being truthful, there wasn't a more thorough investigation prior to the charges brought against Shannon. It not only put Shannon through unnecessary pain and character assassination, it mars the perception of alleged rape victims.
I'm so impressed with how Shannon handled himself. I love the support his team has shown through all of this. It says a lot about the program, but more importantly, it says a lot about Shannon.
I'm so impressed with how Shannon handled himself. I love the support his team has shown through all of this. It says a lot about the program, but more importantly, it says a lot about Shannon.
Eloquently stated.
It was disgusting that everytime the media spoke about Terrence, especially CBS they referred to the charges eventhough the court had ruled innocent until proven guilty. I have to say the guys at SLEEPERS covered it the best. They mentioned that TSJ was a class guy and in all their interactions with him or those that know him had previously mentioned that he is beyond a gracious person. Great job of the fanbase for supporting him.
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