2024 Summer Olympics

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Gymnastics with egg on its face again.

I mean...not to sound unfair but...if this were a US gymnast going from 4th to 3rd, everybody would be jumping around excited. If this were a Romanian gymnast going from 3rd to 5th, no one would care. Matter of fact, if it were a US gymnast being awarded the bronze and then because stripped of it live on the scene due to a Romanian inquiry, people would be very upset as well.

Now with that being said, this situation and the way it's been handled is just straight :poop:. Just terrible honestly.
 
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#210      
Gymnastics with egg on its face again.


By the letter of the rule, it is the correct decision. If the U.S. appeals the deduction with the judges at the event within the permitted time, this is a moot point.
 
#211      
Loved seeing all the great performances by US men and women across multiple sports. Mens and women's basketball teams won gold again with France close in both games. The US - France men's basketball game was a classic with Steph Curry providing the in awe clutch shot making at the end, hitting four 3-pointers in just over 2 minutes.
 
#213      
By the letter of the rule, it is the correct decision. If the U.S. appeals the deduction with the judges at the event within the permitted time, this is a moot point.
Then why was the original protest ever allowed? Sure, strict interpretation supports what you're saying, but the appeals panel didn't follow their own rules.

The gymnastics governing body screwed up in a major way here. And when I've been at tournaments, generally speaking that once the governing organization makes its ruling that's the final decision.

Isn't this CAS committee the one that overturned Manchester City's financial fair play penalties? If so, I don't really have a high opinion of their work.
 
#214      
Loved seeing all the great performances by US men and women across multiple sports. Mens and women's basketball teams won gold again with France close in both games. The US - France men's basketball game was a classic with Steph Curry providing the in awe clutch shot making at the end, hitting four 3-pointers in just over 2 minutes.
Obviously, it's extremely difficult to rank moments across different sports. So I'm just going to list the moments that I'll remember from these Olympics in no particular order.

Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone obliterating the field in the 400m hurdles and setting a world record (as I've said before, this was my personal top choice). I'll also add the women's 4 x 400m relay that crushed the field as well

Stephen Nedoroscik doing his one job and doing it damn well to clinch the US men's gymastics team's first team medal since 2008

Katie Ledecky in a battle with Ariame Titmus for about 500 meters in the 800m freestyle and turning on another gear to pull away (her 1500 was dominant, but the 800 was more memorable for me because she had a legitimate rival)

Steph Curry coming up so big in both the semis and the final of his one and only Olympics. That last three over the double-team will be played on Olympic highlight reels for years.

The emergence of Summer McIntosh, who I agree with a poster earlier has legitimate "crossover" star potential along with SM-L

The US women's soccer team coming off of last year's World Cup disappointment with the emergence of superstars like Mallory Swanson, Trinity Rodman, Sophia Smith, and Naomi Girma. Emma Hayes showing the rest of the US sporting world why those of us who follow soccer a lot think she's awesome both with coaching and as a quote machine ("I don't care. I need a drink" was classic Emma Hayes)
 
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Obviously, it's extremely difficult to rank moments across different sports. So I'm just going to list the moments that I'll remember from these Olympics in no particular order.

Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone obliterating the field in the 400m hurdles and setting a world record (as I've said before, this was my personal top choice). I'll also add the women's 4 x 400m relay that crushed the field as well

Stephen Nedoroscik doing his one job and doing it damn well to clinch the US men's gymastics team's first team medal since 2008

Katie Ledecky in a battle with Ariame Titmus for about 500 meters in the 800m freestyle and turning on another gear to pull away (her 1500 was dominant, but the 800 was more memorable for me because she had a legitimate rival)

Steph Curry coming up so big in both the semis and the final of his one and only Olympics. That last three over the double-team will be played on Olympic highlight reels for years.

The emergence of Summer McIntosh, who I agree with a poster earlier has legitimate "crossover" star potential along with SM-L

The US women's soccer team coming off of last year's World Cup disappointment with the emergence of superstars like Mallory Swanson, Trinity Rodman, Sophia Smith, and Naomi Girma. Emma Hayes showing the rest of the US sporting world why those of us who follow soccer a lot think she's awesome both with coaching and as a quote machine ("I don't care. I need a drink" was classic Emma Hayes)
Yes all great performances. McLaughlin-Levrone in her world record 400m hurdles and her under 44 sec lap on the winning 4x400 relay gold was fire ❤️‍🔥 a performances for the ages. I also loved men's 4x400 relay gold, Gabby Thomas 200m win, Rai Benjamin 400m hurdles, Grant Holloway 110m hurdles, Lyles 100m come from behind gold, Coile Hocker 1500m gold surprise, Ryan Crouser shotput, Valerie Allman discus, Quincy Hall finish in 400m. These were just track & field, with USA also doing well in gymnastics, swimming, women's soccer getting gold and of course the basketball teams both gold medalists. So many great performances. I just let my YouTubeTV DVR record all Olympic competition and then watched and replayed (key moments) at my leisure which is always uplifting.
 
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Then why was the original protest ever allowed? Sure, strict interpretation supports what you're saying, but the appeals panel didn't follow their own rules.

The gymnastics governing body screwed up in a major way here. And when I've been at tournaments, generally speaking that once the governing organization makes its ruling that's the final decision.

Isn't this CAS committee the one that overturned Manchester City's financial fair play penalties? If so, I don't really have a high opinion of their work.

All I know is that the U.S. had one minute to contest the judges scoring after Chiles score was revealed. They didn't submit their challenge to the scoring until 1 minute and 4 seconds had elapsed.

While I get what you're saying about the governing body, major events like the Olympics do use the CAS for situations like this so that they have a higher governing body they can appeal to (And in fact there's a couple governing bodies even about the CAS that the USOPC can appeal to).

And yes the CAS did overturn City's FFP penalties since the alleged breaches were not established or time-bound but did acknowledge that City did obstruct the UEFA investigation. But they have also made important decisions in other cases.
 
#218      
I just don't know. A lot of pundits say gold medals are everything - as if silver and bronze are mere participation awards. I prefer overall medal tally.

My simple system: 3 points for gold medal; 2 points for silver; 1 point for bronze. Easy as 1-2-3.

My final Paris Olympic results:

USA - 250 points
China - 198

We got a clear winner of the 2024 Summer Olympics!

(Had some free time to figure this out once I turned off weird closing ceremony with Olympic man returning to earth or whatever that whole thing was about. It reminded me of a bad trip I had during Summer of Love '67.)
 
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Obviously, it's extremely difficult to rank moments across different sports. So I'm just going to list the moments that I'll remember from these Olympics in no particular order.

Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone obliterating the field in the 400m hurdles and setting a world record (as I've said before, this was my personal top choice). I'll also add the women's 4 x 400m relay that crushed the field as well

Stephen Nedoroscik doing his one job and doing it damn well to clinch the US men's gymastics team's first team medal since 2008

Katie Ledecky in a battle with Ariame Titmus for about 500 meters in the 800m freestyle and turning on another gear to pull away (her 1500 was dominant, but the 800 was more memorable for me because she had a legitimate rival)

Steph Curry coming up so big in both the semis and the final of his one and only Olympics. That last three over the double-team will be played on Olympic highlight reels for years.

The emergence of Summer McIntosh, who I agree with a poster earlier has legitimate "crossover" star potential along with SM-L

The US women's soccer team coming off of last year's World Cup disappointment with the emergence of superstars like Mallory Swanson, Trinity Rodman, Sophia Smith, and Naomi Girma. Emma Hayes showing the rest of the US sporting world why those of us who follow soccer a lot think she's awesome both with coaching and as a quote machine ("I don't care. I need a drink" was classic Emma Hayes)
Yes all great performances. McLaughlin-Levrone in her world record 400m hurdles and her under 44 sec lap on the winning 4x400 relay gold was fire ❤️‍🔥 a performances for the ages. I also loved men's 4x400 relay gold, Gabby Thomas 200m win, Rai Benjamin 400m hurdles, Grant Holloway 110m hurdles, Lyles 100m come from behind gold, Coile Hocker 1500m gold surprise, Ryan Crouser shotput, Valerie Allman discus, Quincy Hall finish in 400m. These were just track & field, with USA also doing well in gymnastics, swimming, women's soccer getting gold and of course the basketball teams both gold medalists. So many great performances. I just let my YouTubeTV DVR record all Olympic competition and then watched and replayed (key moments) at my leisure which is always uplifting.
In terms of a few more Americans...I thought Bobby Finke's 1500 was incredible, Torri Huske might've been the biggest individual star for US Swimming this year, and can't forget about Simone to say the least...

In terms of some non-Americans...

Beatrice Chebet was phenomenal becoming just the third to ever win gold in the double (5,000 and 10,000)....and no way you can ignore what Sifan Hassan did. Bronze in the 10,000, five days later winning Bronze in the 5,000, and then not even a full 48 hours later winning Gold in the 26 mile marathon earlier today. Talk about endurance...

(setting aside the doping allegations of course) Pan Zhanle's 100free...might not see dominance in that event like that again in our lifetime (might actually change my claim from earlier...this was the most dominant performance). Winning the 100free a full body length ahead of the field and over a second in the olympics? For sure hasn't been done in the modern era...wonder the last time overall. Obviously can't forget about McIntosh and Marchand...head and shoulders above as the def. the top two biggest swimming stars these games IMO.

All in all, great games with a lot of great performances. Hoping for the same in '28...

in addition to some proper passes of the batan of course in the 4x100...
 
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#220      
In terms of a few more Americans...I thought Bobby Finke's 1500 was incredible, Torri Huske might've been the biggest individual star for US Swimming this year, and can't forget about Simone to say the least...

In terms of some non-Americans...

Beatrice Chebet was phenomenal becoming just the third to ever win gold in the double (5,000 and 10,000)....and no way you can ignore what Sifan Hassan did. Bronze in the 10,000, five days later winning Bronze in the 5,000, and then not even a full 48 hours later winning Gold in the 26 mile marathon earlier today. Talk about endurance...

(setting aside the doping allegations of course) Pan Zhanle's 100free...might not see dominance in that event like that again in our lifetime (might actually change my claim from earlier...this was the most dominant performance). Winning the 100free a full body length ahead of the field and over a second in the olympics? For sure hasn't been done in the modern era...wonder the last time overall. Obviously can't forget about McIntosh and Marchand...head and shoulders above as the def. the top two biggest swimming stars these games IMO.

All in all, great games with a lot of great performances. Hoping for the same in '28...

in addition to some proper passes of the batan of course in the 4x100...
To add to the Hassan story....she medaled in the 1500 in Tokyo, so her world class performance ranges from one mile to the marathon, which is unprecedented as far as I'm aware
 
#222      
I 've returned to "normalcy" now: watching two episodes of "Leave It to Beaver" I recorded earlier. Eddie Haskell , gold medal; Larry Mondello,, silver; Clarence (Lumpy) Rutherford, bronze. IMO. Ward and June and Fred Rutherford don't get medals because they are coaches.
 
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#223      
I just don't know. A lot of pundits say gold medals are everything - as if silver and bronze are mere participation awards. I prefer overall medal tally.

My simple system: 3 points for gold medal; 2 points for silver; 1 point for bronze. Easy as 1-2-3.

My final Paris Olympic results:

USA - 250 points
China - 198

We got a clear winner of the 2024 Summer Olympics!

(Had some free time to figure this out once I turned off weird closing ceremony with Olympic man returning to earth or whatever that whole thing was about. It reminded me of a bad trip I had during Summer of Love '67.)

Don't need a point system when the medal tally is enough.

You missed quite a closing ceremony though. Especially once it got to the L.A. handoff portion of the ceremony. They did at least explain on the broadcast what the Paris portion of that ceremony was about if you had stayed with it long enough to watch it.
 
#224      
All I know is that the U.S. had one minute to contest the judges scoring after Chiles score was revealed. They didn't submit their challenge to the scoring until 1 minute and 4 seconds had elapsed.

While I get what you're saying about the governing body, major events like the Olympics do use the CAS for situations like this so that they have a higher governing body they can appeal to (And in fact there's a couple governing bodies even about the CAS that the USOPC can appeal to).

And yes the CAS did overturn City's FFP penalties since the alleged breaches were not established or time-bound but did acknowledge that City did obstruct the UEFA investigation. But they have also made important decisions in other cases.
This is the gift that keeps on giving, the US got access to a new time stamped video feed that shows they submitted the challenge at 47 seconds. They are now looking to challenge the revised ruling, stay tuned.
 
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