And like Buck, sticking around to collect on his NIL contract, which now that he gets a fifth year, he gets 5 years of NIL. Going to see a lot more of this from good college players that aren't NBA prospects, it's a path that maximizes NIL.
Ty Rodgers to take redshirt year
Fabulous…someone refresh my memory.
Who else were Tim’s guys?
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Of course I don't think Ty will be with the team after this season. There are still ways for him to be involved with the team this year (heck Sencire even picked up a technical foul while redshirting). However, I am tired of people calling a player selfish when they are making a move in their best interest. It seems like his game did not fit in this year, and that is fine. It is simply premature to lash out at a player who has represented the program well as "selfish" and a "quitter".
For Ty to redshirt and transfer (presumably)....is that leadership? That's a guy that wanted his and I don't blame him one bit.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
He burns his redshirt the second he steps on the floor in a real game, it's not like football (and medical redshirt rules for season-ending injury).
You're a fool if you're not collecting 5 years of NIL at this point.
Totally agree about Ty. But that is a separate analysis from it being horrible that college basketball is like this now.
Not an insider but I’m thinking coach is being very “sencire” with him
he gone.
I have to disagree -- apparently Ty was beat out by 8-9 of the newcomers. This is ultimately a reflection of how good those guys are, and not a negative where a rotation is going to have a limit of 9 anyways.
I just meant that losing the guy who the coach chose to rep the team at media day is going to create something of a leadership vacuum on court, in games.
Also hard to win if you can't play defense. Other than Ty not sure they have anyone who can.
Absolutely brutal. Explains why the insiders had him so low on the depth chart and why people like sleepers who talk to people within the program were talking like he wasn't part of the team. Pretty clear this was in the works for a while now. My guess is similar to Sencire, Brad sat Ty down and said he was planning to only give him spot minutes despite them thinking they earned more than that. In my opinion, he has earned more than that and without him, I don't think we have a plus defender on the team. That said, Brad decided at least 5 if not more players were better than him, the returning most experienced player on the team. And that’s what happens when you do that.
For those calling Ty selfish, disloyal, or quitting on the team, let's not do that. Loyalty works both ways. If you feel like the company is screwing you and keeping you from a much larger and better role, that you think you have clearly earned, while requesting you take a voluntary pay cut and reduced hours in favor of people outside the company who are greener and have no experience, hard to blame the person for deciding to work elsewhere. That's a choice the employer makes and the employee makes their decision based off it. Ty bled orange and blue. Let's not pretend he didn't. This was a philosophical change to the program, while "everyday guys" is a nice little motto, Brad wants extremely talented assassins in the hopes he can mold them into extremely talented everyday guys. I hope it works this year, I really do. But gut feel, this is a devastating loss for us.
Here's hoping we average over 90ppg a night. Takes shot. Takes another. I hate post NIL NCAA basketball, I really do (and yes, I fully realize that we have taken advantage of it more than almost any other team). Sigh...
For those calling Ty selfish, disloyal, or quitting on the team, let's not do that. Loyalty works both ways. If you feel like the company is screwing you and keeping you from a much larger and better role, that you think you have clearly earned, while requesting you take a voluntary pay cut and reduced hours in favor of people outside the company who are greener and have no experience, hard to blame the person for deciding to work elsewhere. That's a choice the employer makes and the employee makes their decision based off it. Ty bled orange and blue. Let's not pretend he didn't. This was a philosophical change to the program, while "everyday guys" is a nice little motto, Brad wants extremely talented assassins in the hopes he can mold them into extremely talented everyday guys. I hope it works this year, I really do. But gut feel, this is a devastating loss for us.
Here's hoping we average over 90ppg a night. Takes shot. Takes another. I hate post NIL NCAA basketball, I really do (and yes, I fully realize that we have taken advantage of it more than almost any other team). Sigh...
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I'm not even necessarily saying it would be a good thing for the team, but I guarantee you Ty Rodgers would have been a core rotation piece.
Brad Underwood himself might disagree if asked at this moment, but I would end up right and he would end up wrong. In the heat of combat Brad is going to end up playing the guys he trusts to guard and run the defense correctly.
That's classic basketball coach stuff. You sit in your office and write down a rotation that you believe can score, then under the lights you actually play a rotation that you know can guard.
Won’t NIL providers start to figure out ways to prevent this? Big donors aren’t gonna want to spend their money on guys who aren’t playing and then transfer
Joel Goodson
- dawgville
it's quite likely Rodgers was looking at substantially less minutes, so he decided to go with Plan B. I get it, but I hate it. Vaya con Dios, Ty
BTW, if any of you hear a primal scream in the distance, it's probly me
BTW, if any of you hear a primal scream in the distance, it's probly me
I would just not pay them. Seems easy enough. Breach of contract.
So the NCAA is saying the money is not for playing, but for your name image and likeness. It's all a sham, because everyone knows that no one is paying college kids the sums of money they're getting for their endorsement value.
I anticipate that someone is going to do a deal based on NIL for X amount and a secondary deal based on playing for Y amount and then challenge it in court.
Because of the lack of leadership and the lack of a clear solution, this is going to be policy by lawsuit.
Seriously. I'm sure I'd be more Tony Bennett than Brad Underwood in this new era.
splitter
- and not Nebraska
Explain it to me like i was a Sencire Harris fan.
I don't know why he waited until today, but this was as obvious as Podz transferring. You can't bring in multiple guys at the same position and expect them to just be willing to fight for a spot. One or more will just leave, especially in today's college sports landscape.
I'm assuming, throughout practice, it's been pretty clear that Rodgers is behind some of the new guys and isn't going to get the amount of minutes he wants. Facts are, Rodgers can't shoot. Not that he's a weak shooter, or even a bad shooter, he can't get the ball through the hoop from further than 6 ft.
I'm assuming, throughout practice, it's been pretty clear that Rodgers is behind some of the new guys and isn't going to get the amount of minutes he wants. Facts are, Rodgers can't shoot. Not that he's a weak shooter, or even a bad shooter, he can't get the ball through the hoop from further than 6 ft.
At some point the scholarship and NIL providers will wise up and curtail this kind of thing.
First, this is bad news. Spinning this to say a starter on last year’s Elite 8 team, our best defender, our hardest worker and someone who was reported to have made substantial improvement is leaving is a large negative.
Second, obviously the NIL money has a clause saying the player has to play? No way he gets $300,000 or whatever to redshirt and transfer.
Second, obviously the NIL money has a clause saying the player has to play? No way he gets $300,000 or whatever to redshirt and transfer.
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So it’s sorta like having a residence in both Iowa and Indiana then?
I am getting the same vibe as when BU switched from his high-pressure, gambling defense to a solid, less turnover-centric defense... and it worked.
Hopefully, BU's focus on long athletic scorers who can play "good enough" defense will bear similar fruit! I'll miss Ty just like I miss Buck, but perhaps we can no longer afford the luxury of having great defenders who are non-factors on offense.
Hopefully, BU's focus on long athletic scorers who can play "good enough" defense will bear similar fruit! I'll miss Ty just like I miss Buck, but perhaps we can no longer afford the luxury of having great defenders who are non-factors on offense.
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Why let him stay around? To practice with our guys, get better, and possibly go to another B1G school?