gotta like our chances. i mean, they dont even have a court in their arena?!?For some reason I thought Riley’s visit to Kentucky was yesterday, but this makes it look like it’s actually today.
gotta like our chances. i mean, they dont even have a court in their arena?!?For some reason I thought Riley’s visit to Kentucky was yesterday, but this makes it look like it’s actually today.
Sorry, was going by 247's roster list, which shows 1 wing for this class.
Maybe doesn't include transfers inbound?
Basically that he's a little too happy-go-lucky about it all; that is seen as a sign of immaturity.
Vecenie says he actually enjoys the Coleman Hawkins experience but that NBA teams just want to see a bit more maturity out of him. The specific instance he mentioned was that he said at the draft combine that he wanted to go to a football school if he transfers somewhere (as opposed to say, a place where they have a chance for a championship). I read it as they don't believe he's not taking the opportunity seriously enough.
It's an interesting question. NIL has meant that players potentially see the NBA as just an option and not the dream. Coleman has a year of eligibility left and he can just be like, cool I'll just go to this school and doesn't have to show the drive to make an NBA roster. And teams will probably only take a flyer on him rather than call his name in the first round.
I think it’s a fair assessment. Coleman has some maturing to do and has a lot to learn/ plenty of room for growth. I do however think that if a projected lottery pick had the same kinds of issues then NBA teams wouldn’t be all sanctimonious about the character of those players or their maturity levelsWe love Coleman, but Vecenie's feedback makes sense. If you're a fringe draft talent, every single thing comes into a microscope from a GM's perspective.
I think Coleman should've kept his mouth closed regarding where he would want to go to college if he wasn't going to be drafted. Especially the "football school" comments made it seem like to an outside that he's more focused on partying than going to where he can best showcase his skills for the next level.
I agree that it's super stupid to pick nits like that (see: my prof pic), but that's the game you gotta play if you want to try to be one of <600 people on this Earth privileged enough to play in the NBA next season.
I remember seeing one tweet that said it was a two day visit, so both could be trueFor some reason I thought Riley’s visit to Kentucky was yesterday, but this makes it look like it’s actually today.
This might be even a worse take than the Fletch debate. They could hire Roger Powell and they’d still Missouri.Mizzery not so vile after clownzo fired. I have respect for Gates.
I have to imagine Tre White would have some concerns given he would be most impacted, but again - you have to earn your PT- we don't know how ready KJ will be even though he looks like he will be awfully readyThere's some concern among a player or two about the Illini's pursuit of Will Riley. Playing time, NIL $, etc. But that was expected.
That kind of smoke might be a good sign on how things are trending with Riley.
Ready or not, KJ is going to have to play a lot.I have to imagine Tre White would have some concerns given he would be most impacted, but again - you have to earn your PT- we don't know how ready KJ will be even though he looks like he will be awfully ready
Sure, but anyone who watched Brad give big minutes to DGL last year when the surefire players were struggling should know their opportunity will come eventually as long as they play hard.I have to imagine Tre White would have some concerns given he would be most impacted, but again - you have to earn your PT- we don't know how ready KJ will be even though he looks like he will be awfully ready
Guys like Tre White are pretty much all looking to average 20+ mpg, which is way, way, way more than DGL got. There will be 2-3 disappointed guys, most likely.... anyone who watched Brad give big minutes to DGL last year when the surefire players were struggling ...
If Tre White ends up leaving (very unlikely IMO)..think we should target a guy like Monsanto, who is willing to earn it and can be an integral piece to the team...I have to imagine Tre White would have some concerns given he would be most impacted, but again - you have to earn your PT- we don't know how ready KJ will be even though he looks like he will be awfully ready
Another byproduct of the NIL landscape? I mean, why welcome a great player to boost the team's chances for a Natty, but instead, start thinking about how bad you have it?..... And then transfer to your 3rd school in 3 years.There's some concern among a player or two about the Illini's pursuit of Will Riley. Playing time, NIL $, etc. But that was expected.
That kind of smoke might be a good sign on how things are trending with Riley.
It's hard to avoid that when you have 11-12 guys on scholarship, even if they're not highly-touted guys.. Not many players are happy getting less playing time than they envision. Maybe a guy like Jakstys, who everyone knows is a development piece, but the rest expect to play. And these days, the player will transfer at the soonest opportunity.Guys like Tre White are pretty much all looking to average 20+ mpg, which is way, way, way more than DGL got. There will be 2-3 disappointed guys, most likely.
Are you Monsanto's agent? I swear, any iota of rumblings on player movement or recruitment, you bring up his name.If Tre White ends up leaving (very unlikely IMO)..think we should target a guy like Monsanto, who is willing to earn it and can be an integral piece to the team...
It's been said on here that his asking price isn't unnecessary at all and he's willing to earn PT and work himself into the mix...
I was curious if this would be a concern by some. There are risks as a player in the NIL world and this is one of them. A coach's job is to maximize the talent and cohesiveness. It can be a challenge with the new NIL landscape.There's some concern among a player or two about the Illini's pursuit of Will Riley. Playing time, NIL $, etc. But that was expected.
That kind of smoke might be a good sign on how things are trending with Riley.
He looked ready for the league with some of the complaining he did to the refs!Yeah, this sounds like pure conjecture from a talking head on a podcast vs what NBA teams are actually saying, because in reality they wouldn’t care about any of the social media antics
The maturity on the court is a legit topic which did get a lot better this year
So it’s YOUR fault!I come back and all of a sudden Fletch doesn’t know what he’s doing?
But not from role playersPure bollocks considering the sht we see in the NBA on a nightly basis.
extremely high but don't expect it to happen quickly. Nov. games will be for player development as well as mixing and matching by the coaching staff.With Riley - What would you handicap the floor, expectation, and ceiling is with this group?
Would someone be upset enough to leave?There's some concern among a player or two about the Illini's pursuit of Will Riley. Playing time, NIL $, etc. But that was expected.
That kind of smoke might be a good sign on how things are trending with Riley.
Silly question, perhaps, but does Jakstys himself know this? We’re all assuming he’s gonna redshirt, but is that what he’s assuming?It's hard to avoid that when you have 11-12 guys on scholarship, even if they're not highly-touted guys.. Not many players are happy getting less playing time than they envision. Maybe a guy like Jakstys, who everyone knows is a development piece, but the rest expect to play. And these days, the player will transfer at the soonest opportunity.
If we get Riley and everyone stays healthy (both big "ifs"), both White and Rogers will likely have a tough time averaging 20 mpg. Not impossible, especially for Ty who can play PF and even a bit of PG, but I'd bet against it.