Excited to see what this group can do. Not adding another tells me Brad is expecting big things from DGL which he is more than capable of, absolute dog.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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DJRichardson4threee
IlliniGator2011
- Chicago, IL
It doesn’t change your point, but isn’t there a rule that international players (you mentioned Ivisic getting paid in an earlier comment) cannot get NIL money? I read somewhere that Zach Edey did not receive NIL.
True, NIL money is not unlimited, but to hooraybeer’s point, if you have the money, why would you not bring a veteran like Coleman back, if he wanted to. I know it’s a big IF, but it definitely WOULD make sense if it were an option.
Guaranteed the sleepers guys will change their tune... Not because they believe it, not because of KJ performance this weekend, but because they want clicks and views.
I enjoy their shows but I'm no way fooled by their smile through their teeth act with Illinois. They placate because Illinois has a crazy fanbase and any mention of Illinois will drive people to their show. Greg especially comes off as someone who would dap you up and the second you left talk smack about you. It's entertainment and I use it as that...
I will love it when they are having to revise history like they did this year with domask and our entire portal get.
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Could take or leave some of these Sleepers opinions.Spent minutes down playing a potential 2025 NBA draft pick,nothing special,not prime addition,etc.Would like lots of crow on their future menu.
I see a 20-22 win team this season… A lot of guys with high upside on the roster, and we are very young. Continuity into 2025-26 is important.
Good point.
PizzaHutParkingLot
- McPherson, KS
A more fun game... how many Big Ten backcourts are you taking over Boswell/KJ?
Thank you - that is a very good synopsis.
It's also why we're excited that his game will fit very well with how the coaches want to use him - he won't have to run the offense right away - we have an experienced PG for that, but his pick and roll game and shooting will be assets right away.
Given he doesn't have that 1 skill that he's a prodigy at - is why we hope to have him here for a couple of years before the NBA is calling, he won't jump off the board on his athleticism, but his all around game will contribute to winning righ away
Fan Since '70
- OBS, Florida
I disagree. JK is as good and likely better than Domask at scoring and is a much better ball handler, playmaker and passer. Book it.
Illini do not necessarily need to replace Shannon with another top dog as they have much more potent overall weapons and several go-to scorers. In open court, Boswell, Jakučionis, Booth, White and Johnson are great court players and finishers. Humrichous, Jakučionis, Ivisic, Davis and Boswell can all deliver big shots in crunch time (better than in '23-24). As I have noted previously, Humrichous/Booth combo can deliver bigger/better scoring punch than Coleman did). Like anyone, I am waiting to see how good a defense coaches can achieve with this unit. Potential is there for a pretty good defense to go along with potent offensive punch. Illini will have more draft worthy players on this coming season's team than they had last season. I really believe that.
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Welcome! Thanks for the info. Keep it up.
Honestly if not Illinois that is about the best landing spot I could imagine. Not B1G, not SEC, not ACC. only just (timewise) in the B12.Egor Demin to BYU. That’s OK, we got a good one in KJ. So everyone’s happy.
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Thanks for the welcome. P.S. I see there's also another guy with a Lithuanian surname (Jakštys) on the roster. I'm guessing some Lithuanian ancestry. I wonder if he can speak any Lithuanian with Jakučionis
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
well said, thanks!
stick around, if you’re lucky someday you’ll have the second post (#1 reply) in a recruiting thread
Dre played between 6-8 minutes in each of the NCAA tournament games. Probably his most consistent stretch of 5+ minutes a game since the non-con schedule in November. His trajectory was ascending last year. He is probably the only guy who didn't waiver on his commitment to playing for the Illini next year. (I assume Ty had his moments privately, especially with us bringing in so many 3/4 types.) That singular focus is likely to keep him on a positive trajectory. He may not start, but he's going to get a healthy chunk of minutes. He's a big key in showing the new guys the EDG mindset.
Hoping to ask a very basic general question, but I realize the answer is probably very complicated. I’m an alum and a fan for 40+ years but have never followed recruiting details very closely. All of the transfer activity makes me wonder what really happens behind the scenes. Dain, Amani, Luke, Sencire, and Nico transfer out. And there are incoming transfers and international players added. I will try to ask my question this way: Which actions are the “cause” and which actions are the “effect”?
In other words, do players learn that the program is seeking other talent, so they decide to move on? Or do players decide to move on, so the program has to respond by finding other players to take their place?
I suppose the answer is probably “both” but I wondered if there is a prevailing (80/20) trend.
In other words, do players learn that the program is seeking other talent, so they decide to move on? Or do players decide to move on, so the program has to respond by finding other players to take their place?
I suppose the answer is probably “both” but I wondered if there is a prevailing (80/20) trend.
Big Jack
- Decatur
JK may very well end up being a better player than Domask but it's a lot to ask for an 18 year old kid to be better than a 5th year senior that scored over 2k points in his career.
GallopingGhost
- Denver, CO
I wonder how we will be defensively
I also wonder if adding this piece prompts Coleman to come back to Illinois if he doesn’t stay in the draft…
I also wonder if adding this piece prompts Coleman to come back to Illinois if he doesn’t stay in the draft…
I certainly won't argue with TSJ. But I think an argument can at least be made that Tre White's production last year was "close" to Hawkins', and Humrichous' production was "close" to Domask's. (And I know the roles are somewhat different, especially with White and Hawkins, but I'm looking only at production here)
First: Hawkins on top, Tre White on bottom (sorry they don't line up with the headers perfectly):
| GP | GS | MIN | FG | FG% | 3PT | 3P% | FT | FT% | OR | DR | REB | AST | BLK | STL | PF | TO | PTS |
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| 35 | 35 | 31.6 | 4.1-9.1 | 45.1 | 1.7-4.6 | 36.9 | 2.2-2.7 | 79.2 | 1.4 | 4.7 | 6.1 | 2.7 | 1.1 | 1.5 | 2.6 | 1.6 | 12.1 |
| 29 | 26 | 31.2 | 4.4-9.8 | 45.6 | 0.8-2.7 | 29.9 | 2.6-3.5 | 75.2 | 1.4 | 4.5 | 5.9 | 1.3 | 0.4 | 0.8 | 2.3 | 1.8 | 12.3 |
And then Domask on top, Humrichous on bottom:
| GP | GS | MIN | FG | FG% | 3PT | 3P% | FT | FT% | OR | DR | REB | AST | BLK | STL | PF | TO | PTS |
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| 38 | 38 | 34.6 | 5.7-12.6 | 45.3 | 1.1-3.6 | 29.7 | 3.4-3.9 | 87.2 | 1.1 | 3.9 | 5.0 | 3.9 | 0.3 | 0.4 | 1.3 | 2.3 | 15.9 |
| 24 | 24 | 29.6 | 5.1-10.6 | 48.4 | 2.2-5.3 | 41.4 | 2.2-2.9 | 75.7 | 1.0 | 3.8 | 4.7 | 1.9 | 0.9 | 0.7 | 1.2 | 1.2 | 14.7 |
Some notes:
-I'm not saying either of White or Humrichous are BETTER than Domask or Hawkins. I'm just saying that they had reasonably similar production last year in most major categories, with the largest exception being assists. Hopefully Boswell and KJ can pick up some slack in that category next year.
-note that Tre White actually had a slightly better fg% than Coleman, despite the reputation for inefficiency (He was of course notably worse from 3, though). He got to the line more, too.
-there's some that think White won't even start, and that Ty will instead. We'll see, but if so, that's a fair bit of potential production off the bench. (It's also worth noting that White has started for both years so far in high-major lineups, and Ty has just the 1 year as a starter under his belt.. of course that year was with us, so...
)-There's still the question of whether Humrizzle can translate his game to the high-major level. That's of course a fair question, so this comparison should be done with that caveat in mind. It at least helps that much of his game revolves around shooting, so that in theory might make for an easier transition.
Your point still stands that last year's team was better at the top - I don't see how anyone could argue with you there.
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I'll take a shot- it's a different cause for each transfer out in my mind:
Dain - was always going to leave after this season, he wasn't a starter and wanted to play somewhere that he will fit the system better and start and earn more NIL
Amani and Sencire - staff wanted to keep both, but with coach Frazier leaving, they followed him to WVU, so the "cause" was their coach with the closest relationship leaving, so the effect was the staff is leaving two spots open for potential mid year or late transfers in, given we don't have rotation minutes anyway
Nico - cause was his lack of projected playing time given what else the staff was bringing in as transfers, he wouldn't have played much this year again and he wanted more PT, staff wanted him to stay and develop, but it's understandable that he didn't want to mostly sit another year
Makes for great practices for sure
Fan Since '70
- OBS, Florida
JK is not just any 18 yr old or comparable to incoming H.S. frosh. He's playing very well against 1st round draft picks, even lottery picks, and is considered a likely 1st round pick in 2025 as well by the talent evaluators, draft experts. I'm hoping he plays lights out but not so good that we can enjoy him for 2 years not just one. How many 1st round draft picks have Illini had since 2005? We have very good players in Jakucionis, Ivisic, Boswell, White, Booth, Humichous and Johnson, all who likely play pro ball, with Jakucionis viewed by experts as having most upside and 1st round potential.
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