Illini Basketball 2021-2022

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the juiceman cometh
Epsilon said:
Yeah I was just reading about this yesterday in that little rabbit hole I went down. The article linked below talks about a “skill curve” and suggests that you should compare players with “like”’usage numbers. Below is the excerpt and link.

  • In a later chapter of Basketball on Paper, Oliver emphasized that Offensive Ratings shouldn't be viewed in a vacuum. Introducing a concept he called "Skill Curves", he acknowledged that a player's ORtg needed to be judged in conjunction with his Usage Rate, a measure of how big a role the player fills in his team's offense. The bigger the role, the more difficult it is to maintain a high ORtg; the smaller the role, the easier it is to be highly efficient. Because of this, Oliver stressed that a player's ORtg should primarily be compared to those of other players in a similar role.

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Calculating Individual Offensive and Defensive Ratings | Basketball-Reference.com

How to calculate individual offensive and defensive ratings
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Makes sense. I would note that Kofi and Davis have virtually idential usage rates (33.4 Kofi vs. 33.3 Davis) and Kofi has a much better ORtg (122.6 vs. 108.9). In fact, Trent, who in the original post was the comparison for Davis, has a better ORtg than Davis as well 113.6, though lower usage (20.0).
 
#78      
The Galloping Ghost
jrichisamazing said:
When it comes to advanced stats, I've always used Torvik and Kenpom. But I just found a new site that has some interesting stuff, evanmiya.com.

One thing that caught my eye is that we have the best 5 man lineup in the country...Kofi, Grandison, Monte, Plummer, Frazier. That takes into account offensive and defensive efficiency.
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Wait wait wait. How can that be when Monte is such a liability on the offensive end and his defense doesn't make up for his lack of offensive production?
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#86      
Ignatius Shang
Kofi in the Top 10 Watch List for Abdul-Jabbar Award:
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Cockburn on Top 10 Watch List for Abdul-Jabbar Award - University of Illinois Athletics

Illinois junior Kofi Cockburn is one of 10 watch list members for the 2022 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Center of the Year award, the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of
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Wonder why Drew Timme is in there, instead of in the Karl Malone Award watchlist, where he used to be last year. I cannot say anyone else could beat Kofi other than Timme.
 
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pruman91
www.stltoday.com

Tipsheet: Cockburn creating massive mismatches in rugged Big Ten

The Big Ten is known for producing big lineups with strong inside play, but Illinois center Kofi Cockburn is a whole other matter.
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After working in the Big Ten for two decades, Wisconsin coach Greg Gard has seen many big man battles. The conference is known for its robust inside play.
But Kofi Cockburn? He’s something else.
The super-sized Illinois center tore up the Badgers for 37 points and 12 rebounds in an 80-67 victory over the No. 11 Badgers Wednesday."Maybe I should have taped Steven and Chris together to try and guard Kofi,” Gard quipped.

"Probably as much as the effectiveness as he has is they surround him with shooters," Gard said. "They do a good job of entering to him from angles where it's harder to get help immediately to him. He's obviously, you know, a very good player."



Yes, Tipsheet knows.
 
#89      
logjam
Watching Kentucky/Alabama....quick takes TyTy is good and Tsheibwe is barely bigger than Liddell and only had 4 rebounds 1st half...Kofi would dominate him.
 
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sacraig
logjam said:
Watching Kentucky/Alabama....quick takes TyTy is good and Tsheibwe is barely bigger than Liddell and only had 4 rebounds 1st half...Kofi would dominate him.
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It sure would be sweet poetry to meet Kentucky in the tournament and absolutely dominate them.
 
#91      
logjam
Bediako just towers above him makes one feel better about all the hullabaloo about him...but stats don't lie.
 
#95      
sacraig
lstewart53x3 said:
We still play @Purdue, @Rutgers, @MSU, @Michigan, vsOSU. Gotta go at least 3-2 in those 5 for a shot at a B1G title.
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All but one of those are Q1 games. Rutgers would seemingly have to go on a bit of a tear to get into the top 75, though. Currently they are 111 (though that doesn't include their big win today).
 
#96      
Piotyr
sacraig said:
All but one of those are Q1 games. Rutgers would seemingly have to go on a bit of a tear to get into the top 75, though. Currently they are 111 (though that doesn't include their big win today).
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Rutgers rose from 104th to 87th in KenPom today as a result of the win, I'd imagine a similar bump in NET. Potentially top 100, but not top 75.
 
#97      
logjam
lstewart53x3 said:
We still play @Purdue, @Rutgers, @MSU, @Michigan, vsOSU. Gotta go at least 3-2 in those 5 for a shot at a B1G title.
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We've went on the road 13-2 last 15...1 without Kofi...and the game Ayo got whacked...gotta like our chances. Plus I'm an optimist.
 
#98      
IllinoisssssssVarsity
Question for my fellow basketball nerds; has anybody taken the time to look at or diagram the play we run A LOT that ends with Kofi pinning down in the middle of the paint for jake to pop to the top of the key and feed him high/low? I’m interested in the full action of this play?
 
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