We should start a Loyalty satellite club in Springfield. Seems like more than a few around here.
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LadyLoyalty
- Indian Wells, CA
Some interesting takes on the K state blog. Generally favorable but a couple question how a contract this big could possibly affect the team dynamic (jealousy, unrealistic expectations, etc), which is something I never really considered with major NIL discrepancies among young, college players.
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Wait till someone tells the KSU fans that CoHawk is undefeated against Hunter Dickinson
Just to be clear, if I get a 2 million dollar offer I'm grabbing it. After I sign I'll ask where it's located.
Hate to tell you, but I believe he bleeds green.
Coleman got right at $2 million with the possibility to get even more ...
Plus we can root for him to own Hunter for the rest of his "beat down by Illini" career.
That’s twice the League minimum (w/ less than half the number of games).. atta boy Coleman!Coleman got right at $2 million with the possibility to get even more ...
6 out of 10 seems pretty lukewarm
My hope for Coleman is that he has a breakthrough year, beats Hunter three times and establishes himself as a first round draft pick without having to play Illinois on our way to the national championship.
However… I’m concerned that he excels primarily as a role player. For four years I was waiting for him to become an alpha, but he just never go there. He had a great season last year because he had two teammates who carried the scoring load, allowing him to become an effective catch-and-shoot three point assassin and top notch glue guy. But the year before, when the offensive flow was a mess, he had bad habits that held him back (step back threes, for example). He’s never been effective on the drive so his expertise comes from proper spacing. I know very little about what K-State’s roster excels at, so it’ll be something to keep an eye on.
Should Coleman shoot at the level he did last year, develop a stronger inside game and defend the 4 as we know he can, he’ll do well. But it’s really going to come down to who he’s surrounded by.
However… I’m concerned that he excels primarily as a role player. For four years I was waiting for him to become an alpha, but he just never go there. He had a great season last year because he had two teammates who carried the scoring load, allowing him to become an effective catch-and-shoot three point assassin and top notch glue guy. But the year before, when the offensive flow was a mess, he had bad habits that held him back (step back threes, for example). He’s never been effective on the drive so his expertise comes from proper spacing. I know very little about what K-State’s roster excels at, so it’ll be something to keep an eye on.
Should Coleman shoot at the level he did last year, develop a stronger inside game and defend the 4 as we know he can, he’ll do well. But it’s really going to come down to who he’s surrounded by.
Coleman Hawkins got better every year at Illinois... If he gets better next year, he could be an all American
The only thing that makes me cringe is if they're expecting him to be a top 2 scoring option. Hawk is a great utlityman. I know he had his knee bothering him, but he arguably struggled to be a consistent 3rd option for us this year...
@RabidDawgClassic just saw your similar point. Great minds..
He also had Terrance and Marcus, so he didn't need to score as much. He definitely has his moments. He scored at all levels in his 30 point game against Iowa.
Yup. And he improved the most between years 3 and 4. If he continues in that direction, he could be really good.
And he doesn't even need to score 20 a game to do it. If he puts up 16 ppg 6 rb 5 assists 2 steals and shoots 40% from 3 then that's pretty good line and all within reality for him
ptgrd23
- orange county CA
2nd half season he started driving to the hoop and scoring. There were flashes of a 18 ppg scorer. Brad 5 out offense left the lane wide open for these drives. A traditional 5 in the low post would limit Coleman's ability to score this way. Looks like KSU likes to play bigs inside.
Kaluma is 6'7 225 15 ppg 7 rbg - in portal may not return
McNair 6'11'' 265 8 ppg 4 rbg
N'Guessman 6'9 220 8 ppg 7 rbg
Onyesnso 7' 230 KY transfer portal 4 ppg 5 rbg 3 bpg
KSU lost 6 and gained 8 from portal so similar turnover to Illinois
You can't really call someone that plays 38 minutes a game a role player. I think you meant he was a "glue guy" which is an important role on a winning team. Don't forget he got a triple double one game, how often has that happened at Illinois? I think Ayo did it but can't think of anybody else. Coleman was much more than a role player, especially this year, he just wasn't an Alpha on scoring...
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
It sucks, but all the best to CoHawk.
Don't be a stranger on the artist formerly known as Twitter, big fella.
Don't be a stranger on the artist formerly known as Twitter, big fella.
I'm happy for Coleman and look forward to seeing him play against Hunter a couple more times. Meanwhile, when are you going to share your thoughts about TSJ and the case now that he's been exonerated. Inquiring minds want to know...
ptgrd23
- orange county CA
Didn't you watch me in NCAA tourney???? By the way Coleman triple double was in 2022 vs Syracuse.
Actually, I guess you did mention the "glue" but the main thing you're overlooking is how much Brad played him because he was so versatile. That was also the case the year before, Brad trusted him more than anybody. And don't forget, he had knee tendinitis all year. Other than the 3 games he rested early in the year, he played close to 40 minutes every game.
You're right...It was Domask this year, but at least he did have one, even if it was a year ealier. And scoring is by far not the only thing Coleman brings to the table.
He is not likely to ever be a 20 point a game guy. That’s not why he’s a good basketball player.
He gives you an incredible amount of flexibility on both ends of the court. He is about as close to being positionless as you can get.
I consider him a facilitator. Not necessarily in the typical sense, like a PG who sets the table for others. (though he can do a bit of that) He creates mismatches that create opportunities for others. He’s a facilitator, in that his presence on the court allows his coach a great deal of flexibility in matchups and scheme. He gives the coach the ability to switch and sub in patterns he may not be able to without a guy like him.
Glad he ended up with a good coach at a good program & got a life changing payday in the process.
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