Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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pruman91
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Is it Saturday yet ??????
 
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Altuve27
PasadenaIllini said:
Damonte had 3-point range. Ty doesn't have that.
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Very true, but I think Ty can bring that toughness intangible and leadership that Damonte had. Williams was a DOG in all the best ways.

Also, someone much smarter than me had a GREAT, in depth post a while back about points per possession for the team as well as Ty himself while he was on the floor and it illustrated that the offense ran extremely well while he was in there. The poster also discussed how Illinois finished games better when Ty was on the floor because of improved defense and getting those critical 50/50 balls.

Ty will get you 5 or 6 points a night. It will just be, obviously, in a much different way than Damonte did it.

As I talked about in another post, Ty does need to finish his layups better and increase his free throw percentage a little bit. If he can do that, he’ll be a plus offensively.

I really need to dig up that other post. It was incredibly detailed and well written.
 
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derrick6
Qdog2859 said:
He has to be able to punish the defense when they slack off of him. He’s playing defense on himself when he refuses to look at the basket. He has no touch around the rim when he actually attacks the rim unless it is uncontested
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No one stops the Iceman. Except Pistol Pete in horse
 
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Second place is 1st loser
Altuve27 said:
Very true, but I think Ty can bring that toughness intangible and leadership that Damonte had. Williams was a DOG in all the best ways.

Also, someone much smarter than me had a GREAT, in depth post a while back about points per possession for the team as well as Ty himself while he was on the floor and it illustrated that the offense ran extremely well while he was in there. The poster also discussed how Illinois finished games better when Ty was on the floor because of improved defense and getting those critical 50/50 balls.

Ty will get you 5 or 6 points a night. It will just be, obviously, in a much different way than Damonte did it.

As I talked about in another post, Ty does need to finish his layups better and increase his free throw percentage a little bit. If he can do that, he’ll be a plus offensively.

I really need to dig up that other post. It was incredibly detailed and well written.
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He doesn't even pretend that he's a threat to shoot the ball. His eyes never get to the rim.

He's super athletic and is phenomenal on the offensive glass, but to say that he's a plus offensively is a stretch and a long one at that.

When we go down the path of being able to finish point blank shots better and increasing your free throw percentage to an acceptable level.....that brings him to a level where he won't hurt you because there is a skill set there. Not having anything else in his bag limits him to bring serviceable at that end of the floor.

If he was a threat to shoot a perimeter jumper, even a little bit, and hits at 25%... that's not great, but it's another layer to his game and more that a defense has to think about. He can't be THAT bad of a shooter, can he?
 
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hoopsfan47
Calvin said:
My first impression of the first highlight video I saw was similar --that he was amazing in some ways, but what I was watching wouldn't translate in BIG play. And if he isn't able to drive, what happens to his game? But then I reminded myself how good staff is at evaluations, how much Brad wanted him, and that I'm just some shmoe on the internet that won't see what was obvious to the staff until after the fact 🤷‍♂️

He's definitely an elite talent. Brad and co have been on fire identifying guys that fit and then upgrading / replacing talent.
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I think most see a player that needs to learn to use his considerable talent at another level. He is not B1G elite now, but in time may be. It all depends on his work ethic and burning desire to be the best he can be. Sure hope so....but no one knows now.
 
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BDMAN
derrick6 said:
No one stops the Iceman. Except Pistol Pete in horse
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Yeah, so true, I can recall at the end of 77-78 NBA season David Thompson one of my favorite NBA players of all time went out and scored 73 points before the NBA adopted the 3-point line from the old ABA to take the scoring title lead. Setting numerous NBA scoring records at the time in doing so. He took the scoring lead over the iceman, but he had the unfortunate luck of playing first. In doing so he let Gervin know exactly what he needed to score to take the scoring title lead back. So, the iceman goes out and scores 63, takes the scoring title back taking over some of Skywalker DT's records in the process.....Yeah the iceman was a bad man!!!!!!!
 
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ChiefGritty
hoopsfan47 said:
Watched some Riley highlights again simply because I did not see a great basketball player....other than he loves to shoot difficult shots. What I did see is a talented shooter for his size...which can lead to an extremely valuable asset if properly developed.

But many of the shots I saw him take in a HS game where he scored 42 would come back in his face....simply poor/difficult shots selection too often.

Regardless, IMHO, there is elite talent that needs a guiding hand to mold into a team player that can be a dagger or a facilitator anytime he is needed to do either. No one knows how quickly he will adapt and fit into team play, but I sure would love to see BU have the opportunity to do just that!!!

Anyone can see the talent and skills Will Riley possesses. And anyone should see the molding that needs to take place when he takes the court with 9 other guys that possess skills of a similar ilk....and some will have the mindset, size, quickness, and athleticism to make his day miserable if he does not learn to recognize where his teammates are, their elite skills, and get them the ball quickly...while taking pride and working hard on the defensive end.

I sure hope he soaks up great coaching and playing with talented teammates....in the original Assembly Hall.
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Yeah what a weird game he's got.

Elite athletic ability, but man he just kinda moves funny. Herky-jerky.
 
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redwingillini11
While we wait for Riley, may I ask our insiders whether they have any insight on the situation with getting Ivisic over here and enrolled? It sounds like this was always going to be a process? But any reason for concern?
 
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ChiefGritty
redwingillini11 said:
While we wait for Riley, may I ask our insiders whether they have any insight on the situation with getting Ivisic over here and enrolled? It sounds like this was always going to be a process? But any reason for concern?
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It's the same thing as his brother.

apnews.com

Zvonimir Ivišić declared eligible for No. 8 Kentucky. The 7-foot-2 Croatian makes immediate impact

Kentucky freshman forward Zvonimir Ivišić says on social media that the NCAA has cleared him to play, ending a prolonged eligibility process that had frustrated Wildcats coach John Calipari along with the fan base.
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Except that Tomislav played a year longer, and it's Illinois not Kentucky being put under the NCAA microscope. I would not describe myself as wildly confident about this process.
 
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FreshlySqueezed
ChiefGritty said:
It's the same thing as his brother.

apnews.com

Zvonimir Ivišić declared eligible for No. 8 Kentucky. The 7-foot-2 Croatian makes immediate impact

Kentucky freshman forward Zvonimir Ivišić says on social media that the NCAA has cleared him to play, ending a prolonged eligibility process that had frustrated Wildcats coach John Calipari along with the fan base.
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Except that Tomislav played a year longer, and it's Illinois not Kentucky being put under the NCAA microscope. I would not describe myself as wildly confident about this process.
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combes
Mapman said:
That’s a hell of a list. I was reviewing all since 1980 and was curious who under-achieved the most given their high HS ranking. I think we all know who succeeded the most. Top 5 under-achievers for me are:

1. Ryan Blackwell
2. Bryant Notre
3. Marcus Griffin
4. Marcus Liberty
5. Lowell Hamilton

My memories of the 80’s are slipping, though.
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Maybe Liberty underachieved for his ranking, but he averaged 18 and 7 his second and last year at Illinois (Kendall Gill led the BT in scoring that year). His first year, he averaged over 8 PPG off the bench behind all time greats Nick Anderson and Kenny Battle.

As for Hamilton, he was a key member of the Flying Illini averaging over 13 a game.
 
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derrick6
combes said:
Maybe Liberty underachieved for his ranking, but he averaged 18 and 7 his second and last year at Illinois (Kendall Gill led the BT in scoring that year). His first year, he averaged over 8 PPG off the bench behind all time greats Nick Anderson and Kenny Battle.

As for Hamilton, he was a key member of the Flying Illini averaging over 13 a game.
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Lowell Hamilton also played in the small class school.

Efrem has to be on that list. Maybe Anthony Welch?
 
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AirNeazy
Lmao Tea leaves saying we might land literally our highest ranked recruit in 40 years and all of a sudden the same people who 1 month ago were screaming that we have utterly failed this offseason because we didn't land some 2-guard from the MAC , are now nitpicking Riley's game and fretting about whether he'll be able to play in the B1G.

Never change Loyalty, never change :ROFLMAO:
 
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