That was more for Marcus if he got a waiver approved, Someone would have chipped in some money for Coleman more than likely but discussions after the UCONN game were that Coleman was happy with what he did here, graduated, stuck it out and the staff agreed that they were going for the future without Coleman.
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All the grumps getting this upset over Coleman is just silly. Good luck to him and I hope he kills it wherever he goes!
My guess based on no inside info is Coleman told Brad I'm out regardless. Prob felt like he could get more money elsewhere if he didn't get his first choice of going to the league. The rest of just pr from both sides for us fans.
That brings the question of did we really overestimate how much money it took to be NIL rich in this new world. If Coleman wanted out to get more money, good for him. He's been great. But if we couldn't afford to keep him then that stinks but we will have to adjust as a program
Very likable guy that made huge strides in the program, and left on a really positive note. I'll root for him wherever he lands. His interview where he talked about doing his due diligence this year made total sense. Thought he'd get better feedback --maybe he has some injuries that affected his draft stock. I can't imagine him not getting a lot of interest from high majors.
To me, this just demonstrates how top heavy the NBA draft is. Late second round vs college NIL seems to be a crap shoot, or even tilted more towards college / Euro leagues.
To me, this just demonstrates how top heavy the NBA draft is. Late second round vs college NIL seems to be a crap shoot, or even tilted more towards college / Euro leagues.
I know its unrealistic but would love if a few donors came together and put an offer together that he couldn't refuse. In addition to his on court contributions, he seems like a great locker room guy and would add continuity for all of the newcomers. I assume he is gone hope he goes to a blue blood (outside of the B1G) and plays well.
Before Kofi turned pro, I was told by a donor that $2M came together for him within a few days if he were to stick around. Hard to believe something similar could materialize very quickly and probably for less if Coleman had any interest. It unfortunately feels like he is ready to go.
Before Kofi turned pro, I was told by a donor that $2M came together for him within a few days if he were to stick around. Hard to believe something similar could materialize very quickly and probably for less if Coleman had any interest. It unfortunately feels like he is ready to go.
Even though I would have liked to see him play for the Illini, I understand he had many things to consider, and I certainly do not think he owes it to Illinois to stay. If he wants a different experience for his final year, live in a different city, experience a different coaching style, etc. then he should do it (especially considering the NIL opportunity). He certainly seems like a young man that can think and make good choices for himself.
I'm curious, as a person with limited understanding of the many subtleties of coaching/playing at this level. Do you believe that he could expereince something with a different coach/system that expands his game, just by seeing and playing a little differently than he is accustomed to? Or is his desire to improve his NBA position completely up to him regardless of where he plays? Sorry if this question is clumsy. I'm just interested as a fan of the game.
Both of these things can be true.
I wasn't comparing his game to Horford's (I literally said that in my post)...I was saying you could slot him into that position & I believe he would do very well because of the skills I mentioned. To use the Pacers as an example, CH could guard Turner if he had to but could also match up against Siakim, Nesmith or Haliburton. Obviously AH has turned into an elite shooter, but still think CH would be a great fit on the Celtics.
Lol Social media team better delete all those videos they posted last year where Coleman was saying how he could've transferred like "a lot of other players" but stuck through the process because it meant more to him.
As always, money talks. No shade to Coleman for doing what's in his financial interest but the flip side here is that he probably can't ever be considered an Illini legend if he finishes his career with a UNC or Razorback jersey on.
As always, money talks. No shade to Coleman for doing what's in his financial interest but the flip side here is that he probably can't ever be considered an Illini legend if he finishes his career with a UNC or Razorback jersey on.
We have good prospects. We'll see what the development looks like.
Yeah, @sharpshot16 made a post last night that seemed to indicate so.
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Wow, this is another 'what is your actual point'? To put it in NBA terms, he is a max player who will be your 3rd best scoring option (if you hope to win). He is not a dominant defensive player, ball handler, or scorer. He's a swiss army knife that's really good at all of that. But there's a...
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A couple of days ago, @DB11Headband made this post:
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Went today late and they were gone 🥴 You gotta be first to the counter. (Actually, second. The guy putting the slices on the counter is first). 😎
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So, we have 2 scholarships open, and at least 1 will stay open. But if we indeed have some money still potentially available (although it's not clear if that applies broadly or if there would just be donors willing to pay Coleman specifically) and some insider indication that we may not, in fact, be done...
Are we done? We're pretty full up on roles and talent at this point, so where would there be a fit for any additional add?
I like this perspective a lot. Coleman played 4 years with us and is a Chicago sports fan. We will never truly lose him regardless of where he ends up going.
A couple of the insiders referenced that we aren’t done potentially- so I’m intrigued by who we can add as well- I think it either needs to be a home run type guy that will take someone’s spot and we will have to just deal with the fallout or a developmental guy who has multiple years left
If it’s Riley I would put him in the Homerun camp and he will play right away - just less time for others to go around
If it’s Mongolian Mike or someone, I think it has minimal impact on this year
Good luck CH.
I think with the roster we have now I would be fine with just another solid off the bench type player.
I'm assuming all these players have agents. Just like MLB, some are better than others.
No. I guess it's important to keep pointing out Brad says sometimes you can have too many players.Yeah, @sharpshot16 made a post last night that seemed to indicate so.
And this leads me to an attempt to change the subject:NBA Draft
Wow, this is another 'what is your actual point'? To put it in NBA terms, he is a max player who will be your 3rd best scoring option (if you hope to win). He is not a dominant defensive player, ball handler, or scorer. He's a swiss army knife that's really good at all of that. But there's a...
A couple of days ago, @DB11Headband made this post:
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
Went today late and they were gone 🥴 You gotta be first to the counter. (Actually, second. The guy putting the slices on the counter is first). 😎
So, we have 2 scholarships open, and at least 1 will stay open. But if we indeed have some money still potentially available (although it's not clear if that applies broadly or if there would just be donors willing to pay Coleman specifically) and some insider indication that we may not, in fact, be done...
Are we done? We're pretty full up on roles and talent at this point, so where would there be a fit for any additional add?
Good question. There has been a lot of talk on here about how we have all this NIL money until we actually need to pay for Storr, or Maddox, or Demin, or even to bring back Coleman Hawkins.
Not saying the staff did a bad job. I think they put together a great roster for next year. But, it looks like we might be on a tighter NIL budget than what we were led to believe.
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I love Coleman but it is time for him to cash in. Werner's article was fine. I responded to someone after the UCONN game that Coleman was GONE. He stated emphatically that he was not coming back. Even though he hinted that the Illini were still an option in subsequent interviews, he already had stated he was NOT coming back and I for one did not believe that he would. I don't feel sorry for HIM at all! He is going to make more money next year than some people make in 20 years. I'm guessing he goes to N.C. If so-good luck young man! We are GOOD to go!
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I really hope we are done. I want to see DGL in his second year. I want to see Morez play a bunch of minutes. I want to see Booth learn his craft on the court. I cannot wait to see KJ. It sounds ideal to get all the great players, but there's still just one ball and 200 minutes to go around. You cannot keep everyone happy in this NIL era if you have too many alphas/NBA hopefuls. Let's go to war with the soldiers already in the trenches.Yeah, @sharpshot16 made a post last night that seemed to indicate so.
And this leads me to an attempt to change the subject:NBA Draft
Wow, this is another 'what is your actual point'? To put it in NBA terms, he is a max player who will be your 3rd best scoring option (if you hope to win). He is not a dominant defensive player, ball handler, or scorer. He's a swiss army knife that's really good at all of that. But there's a...
A couple of days ago, @DB11Headband made this post:
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
Went today late and they were gone 🥴 You gotta be first to the counter. (Actually, second. The guy putting the slices on the counter is first). 😎
So, we have 2 scholarships open, and at least 1 will stay open. But if we indeed have some money still potentially available (although it's not clear if that applies broadly or if there would just be donors willing to pay Coleman specifically) and some insider indication that we may not, in fact, be done...
Are we done? We're pretty full up on roles and talent at this point, so where would there be a fit for any additional add?
Either that or we didn't know what the "market rate" was for some of these guys. The budget probably never changed, but their cost evaluation was incorrect and like everything else, inflation hit. Their money didn't go as far as they thought it would.
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