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I heard from a longtime AZ Wildcat booster, but cannot confirm, that the NIL “projections” made to the Boswell family clobbered the Illini’s pitch. I don’t know what impact that has on the decision, but *if* the few details I’ve heard are remotely true … whoa. Cash + more.
Kofi was an elite transfer
If this is the case our AD has major work to do. I was hoping after losing out on Garcia for the same reason we figured this out, but apparently not well enough. If we can't compete with the best on NIL we won't win these battles.
I know little of the process regarding NIL. How real are these projections ?
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Yes...troubling. We're in the stage of NIL that you can claim anything and there is very little actual data out there. Seems we're taking the accurate/honest approach from the way we've quoted the semi-legit tracking systems and how we compare to other schools (vs. the unverifiable claims or special circumstances where you're a rapper or pro's kid or already a viral social media star). In a few years maybe kids will know more (or be able to ask those before them what coaches/boosters claimed vs. what they actually saw), but for now it's the wild west.
So grand claims will have big short term returns, but might backfire down the road. I think if I was the coach/AD I'd quote the comparison data out there, but also play the bold claim game for now....guess that's why they're getting paid big $ to navigate this world.
Hopefully we can find the right balance to bag a few 5 stars of our own soon....
The idea that somehow we're being honest with the recruits and the rest of our recruiting rivals are not seems fanciful to me.
There's never going to be anything approaching complete data. If a player wants to ink their deals outside of the preferred agency/portal of the university, they can. Even the people running the portal are likely under an NDA that prevents them from releasing details of the deals. Earlier someone suggested that the current players would be giving the straight scoop to the recruits about how they are doing. Possible either way in my opinion.
Things that can be observed (not data) are media impressions (television, radio, and print ads) and social media pushes. So how many tweets does Kofi do for a sponsored product? How about the Arizona guys? Some of these sorts of payouts are almost formulaic. You promote our product we'll give you a penny per follower. (no clue if that's even close to accurate).
Driving around town, you'll see Kofi on a couple of billboards. Boswell could see that. Lville suggested some time ago that Kofi had a new car via NIL. Boswell could certainly see that. Kofi knows what OSF paid him but no one else is necessarily privy to that. Of course, Kofi could tell them, could show them the bank deposit, etc.
What did Boswell see when he drove around campus and the area? I truly have no idea.
As I've constantly harped on (and others) NIL success will be based on enthusiastic alumni overpaying for endorsements. It won't be based on the actual value that the player brings. Think of Dee Brown, arguably the most marketable personality to ever suit up for Illinois. What sorts of endorsements did he get around town after he graduated? His name was still very hot, but businesses just don't see the money they pay for an endorsement really generating increased revenue.
Sorry for the long rant. I was really hoping that NIL would level the playing field for us. I'm not feeling like it has.
Oh come on, can't leave us hanging what is the "+more" It's loyalty after dark time, spill it.
Competing with the best, and overpromising on what you can deliver for a kid are two different things
To be fair, if self stays it very well may have come to fruition.
Bruce was never going to be the coach to develop that.
Why do we immediately assume Arizona overpromised? My meaning had more to do with working with businesses and alumni to increase NIL $$$.Competing with the best, and overpromising on what you can deliver for a kid are two different things
I think most people would believe NIL $ is generated thru advertising endorsements and product sales(shirts, ect). At least to me, an uninformed observer, those are my beliefs as to how the $ would be generated. My guess is the Blue Bloods and assorted want to be blue blood scoundrels of college BB will leverage NIL $ into what it has always been for them, bags of cash to players and handlers, but now under the guise of some sort of concocted "venture" with the student athlete for use of name, image and likeness. We just need to find some backers willing to put up tall cash in the name of NIL, and funnel it in a way to look legit. Almost like laundering money for the cartel. lol..... if that is what it takes to get 5*s.
Not sure that Dee is a good example here. After graduation he spent a decade playing professionally far away from CU. When he was done with that he was given some patronage job with the DIA. A year later he resigned (or was fired) and left the area..
It has been formed. Arizona also has one and i bet virtually every top school.
What does his presence in town have to do with it. He was a huge name. He didn't have to be here to appear in an auto ad.
Just curious from Chicago area folks. Is Ayo cashing in on endorsements?
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Jay Leman and Martin O'Donnell both do commercials in the CU area.
First and third on the list is what I was told about, in addition to a seven-figure cash “projection.” Again, this is absolutely unconfirmed, third-hand info. Source could be pulling my leg. Or not.
Aren’t meals part of a typical full ride package?
Yeah…I would bet a lot of schools have unofficially had groups already formed
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