altenberger22
- South Carolina
Sounds like maybe they're IN PLAY?
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Joel Goodson
- dawgville
Impossible to tell. Could be loud noises or something more. Would be a very ballsy move to bolt: wonder what their financial obligation is?
In case it isn't obvious, the A&M fanbase despises UT.
altenberger22
- South Carolina
If the door is cracked open even an inch, I'm thinking (hoping) the Big10 jumps all over the opportunity to make inroads in Texas. Here's a replay of the top of that College Football Revenue list (based on 2019 figures). Perhaps having the Big 10 brand in Texas can cut into some of that Longhorn money.
#24 Clemson $63.1 million (+3)
#23 Illinois $65.6 million (+5)
#22 Michigan State $68.9 million (-4)
#21 South Carolina $69.2 million (+2)
#20 Arkansas $70.3 million (-3)
#19 Florida State $71.1 million (+2)
#18 Oregon $77.6 million (+2)
#17 Texas A&M $78.1 million (+2)
#16 Iowa $81.4 million (=)
#15 Wisconsin $87.4 million (-2)
#14 Tennessee $91.6 million (-2)
#13 Washington $91.7 million (+2)
#12 Florida $94.9 million (+2)
#11 Louisiana State $95.1 million (=)
#10 Nebraska $95.8 million (=)
#9 Auburn $97.7 million (-2)
#8 Notre Dame $97.9 million (-4)
#7 Penn State $101.7 million (-1)
#6 Oklahoma $101.9 million (+2)
#5 Alabama $110.1 million (+4)
#4 Ohio State $115.5 million (+1)
#3 Michigan $125.8 million (=)
#2 Georgia $134.5 million (=)
#1 Texas $144.4 million (=)
bdutts
- Houston, Texas
I live in Houston now. Still tons of Aggies here (in fact, my company hires too many of them, but that's another story..). Agreed, would love to snap up A&M for the Big Ten.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
I've thought the same. This whole process could yield two conferences that are clearly head and shoulders above the rest: the SEC will be one, and the Big Ten is in a great position to be the other. But I get the feeling Warren will find a way to bungle the opportunity and we'll end up with one dominant conference and several smaller-ish ones vying for prominence, or we'll be clearly #2, but a distant one.
I spend a lot of time in Texas.
The U of Texas may be in Austin but the spirit of Texas resides in College Station. Rabid fan base united in their hatred of all things Longhorn. Great traditions, would be a perfect fit.
The U of Texas may be in Austin but the spirit of Texas resides in College Station. Rabid fan base united in their hatred of all things Longhorn. Great traditions, would be a perfect fit.
SEC talking to Ohio St, Michigan, Clemson and Florida St
I honestly wouldn't mind being in a big Ten without Ohio St and Michigan. It would still be a very strong conference without them and we would have a lot more parity.
If this report were to happen I would hope all the non sec conferences get together and have their own playoffs. The money would still be there even if it isn't as much.
I honestly wouldn't mind being in a big Ten without Ohio St and Michigan. It would still be a very strong conference without them and we would have a lot more parity.
If this report were to happen I would hope all the non sec conferences get together and have their own playoffs. The money would still be there even if it isn't as much.
bdutts
- Houston, Texas
Apparently, there was a "handshake or gentleman's agreement" (don't remember how it was reported yesterday) that when A&M joined the SEC that they would be the only Texas school in the SEC. Obviously, that doesn't matter since it's not in writing but if there was evidence of that actually happening (video or audio recording), might give A&M a bit of ammo. Not sure what the law is in Alabama (or Texas).
To say that A&M leadership is super p!ssed is an understatement...
The Sprouting Divot
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Like this one, where the cadet corps squeezes their own testicles in order to "share the pain" with the players who are playing hard?
There are dozens of other bizarre behaviors that comprise their "great traditions" - here's a primer, obviously written with a pro-Longhorn slant:
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bdutts
- Houston, Texas
very interesting indeed...
Joel Goodson
- dawgville
lol. I was thisclose to posting a reply to Centennial's post, saying they have a lot of goofy traditions too.Like this one, where the cadet corps squeezes their own testicles in order to "share the pain" with the players who are playing hard?
There are dozens of other bizarre behaviors that comprise their "great traditions" - here's a primer, obviously written with a pro-Longhorn slant:
2) Turditions
aggy turditions Most individuals attend college to obtain an education and to prepare them for their professional future. Between matriculation and graduation, friendships are made, hijinx are enjo…
A tradition can be both "Great" and "Goofy" at the same time.
I would say they are carefully exploring all their options. They would be foolish not to know where they would be money wise moving to the B1G.
They are obviously upset the SEC is serious about grabbing UT after what was likely an understanding since they got in that it would never happen.
Actually if a testicle squeeze isn't A and M, I don't know what is.
Epsilon
M tipping over
- Pdx
Losing ScuM and tOSU would be big losses for the conference.
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There’s still too many big you looking at this from a “how does this affect the football schedule”.
The B1G, from a conference administration level DOES. NOT. CARE.
If Michigan and/or Ohio St. leaves the B1G, the conference us screwed. They are brands we cannot afford to lose. They are schools we cannot afford to lose. Who cares about parity?
The B1G, from a conference administration level DOES. NOT. CARE.
If Michigan and/or Ohio St. leaves the B1G, the conference us screwed. They are brands we cannot afford to lose. They are schools we cannot afford to lose. Who cares about parity?
Over on Bucknuts someone said the B1G is looking into Georgia Tech and Miami. . .not a great geographic fit but would open up Georgia and Florida markets. But the dream is Notre Dame, which I still don't understand why they'd go ACC over the B1G but whatever at this point. I heard Virginia Tech is a possibility too.
Let's hope Warren is on the sidelines for this and he's having the professionals figure out what's next.
And you'd hope we'd do WHATEVER it takes to see if A&M would make the move.
Let's hope Warren is on the sidelines for this and he's having the professionals figure out what's next.
And you'd hope we'd do WHATEVER it takes to see if A&M would make the move.
The State of Texas is not the State of Texas of old. Used to be cowboys, oil, and lots of good ole boys (and girls). Today it's Big Tech, endless subdivision sprawl,
changing politics, and lots of people moving in from the Midwest and California with non-'Texas' ways.
What this means is that the 'The Spirit of Texas' is a changing thing. Texas at Austin was of course the glamor school for many years. But that was a generation or more ago. College Station is an isolated hotbed of grid fans and old connected political and moneyed types, but it does not represent that State at large and certainly not outside of their limited bubble of influence. The State is too spread out and diverse for any one institution to represent it.
Texas and Oklahoma need to join the SEC. They belong there with the other Southern powerhouses. The rest of the not-so-Big-12 need to be split out amongst those who will have them. Many Texans have missed the yearly gridiron battles between Austin and College Station. The State would love this.
The addition of Nebraska to the Large 14 has paved the way for Kansas. The one single glamorous big money-making program (of Kansas) will remove all roadblocks like it did for the Big Red years ago. The question for the "14" is whether to also add Iowa State as the natural rival to Iowa and a potentially good rival for The Beloved.
West Virginia would be a good rival for those '14' members in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Add one more from somewhere in the East and that should do it for Big Whatever They Rename The Ten Conference.
Whatever happens, The Illini and everyone else are on a process to up their overall games to be able to compete on an higher level than ever before. Coach U often talks about competing with the Very Best. Now everyone is going to get their chance to do this.
Joel Goodson
- dawgville
taking a shower now
mattcoldagelli
- Script Illinois Enthusiast
Remember a few years ago when everyone was raising the alarm that kids just aren’t playing football as much anymore? Do those trends remain unchanged?
I’m not suggesting football is going to go extinct or anything - and certainly not in the South - but I would hope the B1G is being at least a little circumspect around whether this should be the sole organizing principle for the future of the conference (which, to their credit, they did last time around by seeing the benefits of MD and Rutgers beyond “do you even football, bro?”)
I’m not suggesting football is going to go extinct or anything - and certainly not in the South - but I would hope the B1G is being at least a little circumspect around whether this should be the sole organizing principle for the future of the conference (which, to their credit, they did last time around by seeing the benefits of MD and Rutgers beyond “do you even football, bro?”)
altenberger22
- South Carolina
Wonder if it's foolish to think that phone calls/zooms are occurring ---- and decisions/agreements are perhaps being made this weekend.
I find it almost impossible to believe that the University Presidents of UM or O$U would walkaway from the 100's of millions in research money that goes along with the BTAA for the fraction of that for football revenue in the SEC.
National/southern bloggers dont understand the deep ties that the B1G schools have to each other. Its not that way anywhere else. They talk from a position of ignorance.
Don't forget that this is about broadcast and streaming rights revenue. That's first, second, and third on the list. Then academic fit and other criteria enter the discussion. If you aren't adding large eyeballs you aren't getting in. If we can't use you to pry someone else loose you aren't getting in. Iowa St adds not one single eyeball, and they already play Iowa every year. They add nothing. WVU is in a sparsely populated state, won't add enough eyeballs to make the pie bigger and is essentially a 4 yr JUCO. I'd be shocked if either one was even considered let alone added. KU might get consideration due to BB status but only if adding them would help pry someone else loose (UNC, aTm).
The remaining big fish after UT and OU move would be UNC, UND, Clemson, and FSU, and certainly aTm if they are indeed in play. You don't add anybody else unless it gets you one the the big fish.
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