Pregame: Illinois at Nebraska, Friday, September 20th, 7:00pm CT, FOX

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#126      
I believe that the most likely outcome for the Illini going into November is 4-4, but getting to 5-3 will not be a "miracle". It is very difficult to win on the road in the B1G (and Nebraska and Penn State will be ranked), so I completely expect the Illini to fall short the next two weeks, though I think the Illini will be very competitive in both games. We will know a lot about this team coming out of the bye week to face Purdue. It is the most important game, IMO, as the season can get completely spin out of control with a loss.

The Kansas win got the Illini into solid conversations of making a bowl game (most projections for this team were around 5 wins preseason). I think this team is about a 6-7 win team at this point, but a win this weekend will change the outlook considerably.
"Miracle" is overstating it, fair enough. 5-3 is unlikely, let's just leave it there.

But I very much agree with you, how we play in our upcoming losses is going to tell us a lot.

It's entirely possible that we're 4-4 and yet very confident that we're a bowl team with a longer-term arrow pointing up. I'd take that over a fluky 5-3 to be honest.
 
#127      
We're ranked purely as a function of preseason expectations for Kansas.

I am a strong, strong supporter of a vibes-based AP Poll. That's part of what makes college football fun. Enjoy it. But don't confuse it for a reliable prognostication of the quality of the team.

It will be a miracle if we're 5-3 when the calendar turns to November.
5-3 would be amazing...to beat any one of UM, PSU, NE or OU would be quite an accomplishment for this team
 
#130      
Great start 3-0.

My goal is to go 8-4 regular season. The schedule favors us.

We should be favored at home vs Purdue Minnesota and Michigan State which gets us to 6 wins.

All we have to do is steal 2 wins vs @ Nebraska, Michigan @ home, @ Rutgers or @ NW. I think that is very doable.

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#132      
The media says Nebaska is back at the start of every season, then they underperform. Maybe the new qb is really the next Patrick Mahomes. We'll find out Friday night.
They sure want him to be.
 
#133      
we don’t need a miracle to go 1-3 or even 2-2 vs the 4 tough ones of the next 5 , but we need solid play from the whole team .

much like the game we played at scUM in 2022 and the refs jobbed us
Eh, I see it primarily as a semantics argument on what a miracle constitutes, but I don't have any issue with anyone saying it'd take a miracle to win at least 2 of @Neb, @PSU, vPur, vMich, @Ore. Most years in the past 30, that's a 1-4 if not an 0-5 for us. Agreed though that thus far this doesn't seem like most years and I also think an O/U of 1.5 wins seems fair. Right now based on how teams are playing I'd go with the follow likelihoods:

Very little chance:
@Oregon- The only real chance we have of beating them is if this is a game they are sluggish and don't show up for. It does happen a couple times each year for them, but if they do show up as they do in most games, they should run us off the field.

Low chance:
@Neb- I think they're for real. They've always had a major talent advantage, they just also had a terrrrrrrible coach in Frost. They're playing good smart tough football this season, and them not doing that was the biggest reason they haven't been regularly getting 8-9 win seasons in the B10. We can beat them, and I think the Scotts can bait Raiola into some bad reads, but they should absolutely dominate us in the trenches and us playing in our first road game against a rejuvenated hyped up crowd is tough.

@PSU- I think PSU will be more susceptible than Neb, but not because of the on paper talent or expectations. Sadly they play UCLA right after us instead of USC, so we won't be a pure trap game, but I think Nebraska will teach us more about our line deficiencies and should help us gameplan for a similarly stout PSU front. As well, Franklin has shown himself to be extremely stubborn and resistant to make adjustments especially defensively, so if we find something that works and play good defense, I can easily see this one being a one possession game late. Would be a tough low chance win, but it's definitely possible

Slight dog trending towards tossup:
vMich- Michigan has looked completely out of sorts this season and ripe for the taking, but they are still Michigan. They will have a talent advantage and a ref advantage against us. This looks to be a winnable game, but we're still going to have to play good football to get it done.

Moderate Favorite:
vPur- There is no reason we shouldn't win this game other than them being our kryptonite for whatever reason. We should beat this team as it is not good, but they've also been not good for years yet somehow play out of their minds against us year in and year out.

Overall, our expected wins against this lineup is probably somewhere near 1.5. We'd need to decently overachieve to get 2. So not a miracle but still tough, unless you deem Purdue from a recent history perspective, in which case miracle seems accurate
 
#134      
Last year after the Nebraska game we switched from a zone blocking scheme to a gap blocking scheme. Maybe we see more of that of that this week.
Isn't this the big change up front last year that no one is talking about? Our performance against NE last year was not good.
 
#135      
My observation of this game:

First key is the offense will need to show some dynamism. Hoping Lunney has held a couple things back and perhaps learned a bit about what is and isn't working (based largely on OL play) and is ready to adjust. Have to be able to catch the Husker D off-guard a bit. Also, have to have play calling which helps avoid Luke taking sacks. He's shown great poise, thus far, but if he's hurried/sacked a bunch, mistakes will likely follow and we're in for a long night.

Also have to hope for the D-line to be ready to step up against stiffer competition and force the freshman QB into some mistakes of his own. We know we have a capable secondary to capitalize on those mistakes. Winning the turnover battle is a must.

I have confidence that BB will have a gameplan in place which at least keeps things competitive. He's shown, many times now, a knack for doing this. If a couple bounces go our way, we just might be able to sneak one away under the Friday night lights.
 
#137      
Color me pessimistic. The Illini are 2-10 in their last dozen road openers, with the only wins being against terrible Connecticut and Rutgers squads. We just don't play well in our first road games, and that's compounded this year by (1) a short practice week, (2) a ranked opponent, (3) coming off a bye week, (4) that should be able to out physical us on both lines, and (5) with 85,000 energized opposing fans in the stands. I see them doing to us what we try to do against lesser competition: run it down our throats until we're forced to put 8 in the box, then giving Raiola easier reads with man-on-man coverage. This could get ugly. Hope I'm wrong, of course.
 
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#138      
Eh, I see it primarily as a semantics argument on what a miracle constitutes, but I don't have any issue with anyone saying it'd take a miracle to win at least 2 of @Neb, @PSU, vPur, vMich, @Ore. Most years in the past 30, that's a 1-4 if not an 0-5 for us. Agreed though that thus far this doesn't seem like most years and I also think an O/U of 1.5 wins seems fair. Right now based on how teams are playing I'd go with the follow likelihoods:

Very little chance:
@Oregon- The only real chance we have of beating them is if this is a game they are sluggish and don't show up for. It does happen a couple times each year for them, but if they do show up as they do in most games, they should run us off the field.

Low chance:
@Neb- I think they're for real. They've always had a major talent advantage, they just also had a terrrrrrrible coach in Frost. They're playing good smart tough football this season, and them not doing that was the biggest reason they haven't been regularly getting 8-9 win seasons in the B10. We can beat them, and I think the Scotts can bait Raiola into some bad reads, but they should absolutely dominate us in the trenches and us playing in our first road game against a rejuvenated hyped up crowd is tough.

@PSU- I think PSU will be more susceptible than Neb, but not because of the on paper talent or expectations. Sadly they play UCLA right after us instead of USC, so we won't be a pure trap game, but I think Nebraska will teach us more about our line deficiencies and should help us gameplan for a similarly stout PSU front. As well, Franklin has shown himself to be extremely stubborn and resistant to make adjustments especially defensively, so if we find something that works and play good defense, I can easily see this one being a one possession game late. Would be a tough low chance win, but it's definitely possible

Slight dog trending towards tossup:
vMich- Michigan has looked completely out of sorts this season and ripe for the taking, but they are still Michigan. They will have a talent advantage and a ref advantage against us. This looks to be a winnable game, but we're still going to have to play good football to get it done.

Moderate Favorite:
vPur- There is no reason we shouldn't win this game other than them being our kryptonite for whatever reason. We should beat this team as it is not good, but they've also been not good for years yet somehow play out of their minds against us year in and year out.

Overall, our expected wins against this lineup is probably somewhere near 1.5. We'd need to decently overachieve to get 2. So not a miracle but still tough, unless you deem Purdue from a recent history perspective, in which case miracle seems accurate
Regarding Michigan, we FINALLY have a head coach that doesn't "turn the other cheek" when the topic of officiating comes up. Really hope before the game he will call out the refs for their debacle in Ann Arbor 2 years ago.
 
#139      
Color me pessimistic. The Illini are 2-10 in their last dozen road openers, with the only wins being against terrible Connecticut and Rutgers squads. We just don't play well in our first road games, and that's compounded this year by (1) a short practice week, (2) a ranked opponent, (3) coming off a bye week, (4) that should be able to out physical us on both lines, and (5) with 85,000 energized opposing fans in the stands. This could get ugly. Hope I'm wrong, of course.
Neither Illinois or Nebraska are coming off a bye week...
 
#140      
Color me pessimistic. The Illini are 2-10 in their last dozen road openers, with the only wins being against terrible Connecticut and Rutgers squads. We just don't play well in our first road games, and that's compounded this year by (1) a short practice week, (2) a ranked opponent, (3) coming off a bye week, (4) that should be able to out physical us on both lines, and (5) with 85,000 energized opposing fans in the stands. This could get ugly. Hope I'm wrong, of course.
Being terrible in your first true road game is one of those classic, timeless elements of college football, it's not just us.

Just for the record though, Nebraska isn't coming off a bye, they played Northern Iowa on Saturday night and so actually have marginally less rest than we do.

It's just a really big talent gap in a really difficult environment playing a style we tend to have trouble with. If we play clean football and keep it close I will be pretty enthused, and if we do keep it close, their self-sabotage tendencies come into play.
 
#141      
I think until we get better interior line play, we have to use Feagin as a decoy up the middle, send a back in motion and pass to the tight ends at least 7-10 times. Get the linebackers committing to stop the run and moving with the motion then throw high percentage, short passes which will open up deeper routes and backs catching the ball coming out of the backfield!
 
#142      
Eh, I see it primarily as a semantics argument on what a miracle constitutes, but I don't have any issue with anyone saying it'd take a miracle to win at least 2 of @Neb, @PSU, vPur, vMich, @Ore. Most years in the past 30, that's a 1-4 if not an 0-5 for us. Agreed though that thus far this doesn't seem like most years and I also think an O/U of 1.5 wins seems fair. Right now based on how teams are playing I'd go with the follow likelihoods:

Very little chance:
@Oregon- The only real chance we have of beating them is if this is a game they are sluggish and don't show up for. It does happen a couple times each year for them, but if they do show up as they do in most games, they should run us off the field.

Low chance:
@Neb- I think they're for real. They've always had a major talent advantage, they just also had a terrrrrrrible coach in Frost. They're playing good smart tough football this season, and them not doing that was the biggest reason they haven't been regularly getting 8-9 win seasons in the B10. We can beat them, and I think the Scotts can bait Raiola into some bad reads, but they should absolutely dominate us in the trenches and us playing in our first road game against a rejuvenated hyped up crowd is tough.

@PSU- I think PSU will be more susceptible than Neb, but not because of the on paper talent or expectations. Sadly they play UCLA right after us instead of USC, so we won't be a pure trap game, but I think Nebraska will teach us more about our line deficiencies and should help us gameplan for a similarly stout PSU front. As well, Franklin has shown himself to be extremely stubborn and resistant to make adjustments especially defensively, so if we find something that works and play good defense, I can easily see this one being a one possession game late. Would be a tough low chance win, but it's definitely possible

Slight dog trending towards tossup:
vMich- Michigan has looked completely out of sorts this season and ripe for the taking, but they are still Michigan. They will have a talent advantage and a ref advantage against us. This looks to be a winnable game, but we're still going to have to play good football to get it done.

Moderate Favorite:
vPur- There is no reason we shouldn't win this game other than them being our kryptonite for whatever reason. We should beat this team as it is not good, but they've also been not good for years yet somehow play out of their minds against us year in and year out.

Overall, our expected wins against this lineup is probably somewhere near 1.5. We'd need to decently overachieve to get 2. So not a miracle but still tough, unless you deem Purdue from a recent history perspective, in which case miracle seems accurate
I think you are overestimating Oregon. They are nothing special and very beatable...if we didnt have to travel to their place, this game would be a toss up for me. Barring any major injuries, i think we definitely cover the spread, as I'm sure it will be outrageous as the public bets us down.
 
#145      
So what’s up with the offensive line. Why are they struggling?
It's the run blocking...more so the interior run-blocking...

IMO pass blocking is fine. You can just sense it - the difference this year vs last year at this time Luke scrambling for his life on seemingly literally every drop-back.

The 2 tackles also seem to be fine. Struggles are on the interior...
 
#146      
Color me pessimistic. The Illini are 2-10 in their last dozen road openers, with the only wins being against terrible Connecticut and Rutgers squads. We just don't play well in our first road games, and that's compounded this year by (1) a short practice week, (2) a ranked opponent, (3) coming off a bye week, (4) that should be able to out physical us on both lines, and (5) with 85,000 energized opposing fans in the stands. I see them doing to us what we try to do against lesser competition: run it down our throats until we're forced to put 8 in the box, then giving Raiola easier reads with man-on-man coverage. This could get ugly. Hope I'm wrong, of course.
*84,998 as my dad and I will be there :chief:
 
#148      
Color me pessimistic. The Illini are 2-10 in their last dozen road openers, with the only wins being against terrible Connecticut and Rutgers squads. We just don't play well in our first road games, and that's compounded this year by (1) a short practice week, (2) a ranked opponent, (3) coming off a bye week, (4) that should be able to out physical us on both lines, and (5) with 85,000 energized opposing fans in the stands. I see them doing to us what we try to do against lesser competition: run it down our throats until we're forced to put 8 in the box, then giving Raiola easier reads with man-on-man coverage. This could get ugly. Hope I'm wrong, of course.
However, we also haven't been ranked in the Top 25 for any of those dozen road openers to which you allude.
 
#149      
I think until we get better interior line play, we have to use Feagin as a decoy up the middle, send a back in motion and pass to the tight ends at least 7-10 times. Get the linebackers committing to stop the run and moving with the motion then throw high percentage, short passes which will open up deeper routes and backs catching the ball coming out of the backfield!
I absolutely love this comment and this proposal! It simply has to work better than running straight ahead into a brick wall.
 
#150      
It can be done. People forget the Illini can be a top 10 team.




 
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