This wasn’t a “staff” offer … I’ve made mention many times of how I feel about our evaluations of certain players and recruitments of certain players by a certain staff member … This falls into that category …
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This wasn’t a “staff” offer … I’ve made mention many times of how I feel about our evaluations of certain players and recruitments of certain players by a certain staff member … This falls into that category …
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With the obviously limited number of scholarships are assistant cbb coaches given the freedom to make offers like that? I always kind of figured it would be a universal decision lead by the hc on who they offered because of the impact to overall roster construction.
Also any chance they can back involved with Knueppel? I feel like he's going to go to Wisconsin and roast us.
Getting frustrated with Coach Underwood. Long time fan — saw Magic in Assembly Hall —but haven’t posted much. Nevertheless
1. Let’s GA pick recruits just so he can get someone in roster
2. Chester was Associate HC at VA Tech then comes here Coach is ejected last year and GA takes the bench not Chester.
3. The point guard issue—no real backup plan for RJ Dennis and now doesn’t go after PM or the Arizona/WVU kid.
4. Most important no Sweet 16.
No Sweet 16 next year I am out. If he leaves for WVU job now no argument from me
NASchamp
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Well, I’d be willing to bet we could have an extra couple hundred thousand to offer him… so he def. could be…
What does the date someone joined have to do with what they know?
I love data
Good ole boys club meetings are usually at the end of the month
So, how exactly, do offers work? Are they all passed through Brad or can anyone make them. And, what if a kid accepts who is lower prioroity than another recruit. Seems like we have 5-10 offers out there. Can we rescend our offer?
*can any assistant make offers
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The player states he had a call with Underwood himself and received an offer. Certainly you have a right to assess that decision by UW and staff like anyone else here. To call it a wasted scholarship at this point is questionable statement in my view, but we all have a right to our opinion.
Promise?
This doesn't make sense. We had a fantastic off-season until we "lost" our guy at PG. Guerrier, Domask, and Harmon are all good to very good players and we also got TSJ and Hawk back. I think BU and Co were trying to make our lineup as attractive as possible for a PG to join us . They did exactly that, but obviously it didn't (or hasn't yet) work out at PG which is disappointing to everyone. But our staff did a fantastic job up until that point.
The type of offer can vary … Committable vs Non committable … My favorite the “favor” offer which we did a lot of for MIF kids … Kids we have no interest in but in order to get kids like Ace and Ayo … Irvin’s say hey go ahead and offer Tamell Pearson, Marcus Watson, etc.
Every coach does things differently … Some assistants can make offers … Others can’t … Sometimes you want the HC to be the one to offer …
In this case Geoff decided an offer was necessary and Brad went with what Geoff said … Doesn’t mean it’s committable at this point …
Offering in state kids is also a good look …
I’m not an insider by any means but I thought it was well known by now that not all high major offers are committable.
Edit: the actual insider beat me to it.
Brad has about 1000 responsibilities … He takes the staff word for it a lot of times … Offering an in state kid with ties to in state programs … Yeah Brad made that call … It takes no more than 2 minutes …
Pretty solid list …
For those that are film junkies … You’d know who called the offense last year … If you want to call it offense …
Every. Single. Year. We have had to scrap this “offense” we are trying to run and go to something else mid year … I’m getting real tired of that …
Went to ball screen with Kofi and Ayo and went to spread last year mid year when we spent the entire off season trying to install an offense that was not going to work and everyone seemed to know except the certain people trying to install it …
Now I get it. You don't like the offer because you don't like one particular coach.
Well, the offer came from Brad Underwood after he watched the kid play and the coach you don't like had some input but isn't the primary recruiter.
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Where will you go?
… Look I don’t know what your deal is … But it doesn’t take me looking at a kid to determine how good he is when I talk to 5-10 other coaches who GET PAID TO EVALUATE and they all say the kid isn’t HM good … Shoot even a member of the Illinois staff told me he didn’t think the kid was good enough …Do I have a personal problem with Geoff ? No.
Do I have a basketball problem with Geoff ? Yes.
There’s a difference …
The offer came from Brad, he did make the call and I’ve never argued that but Brad and other staff members tell me Geoff thought it was the right time to offer and Brad said okay I’ll make the call …
But hey, I’m sure you’re talking to Brad and the staff and other coaches all the time …
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Thanks. Don't know why I didn't ask until now. Just seems like we have an awful lot of offers. This clears that up. Would have never guessed there were so many different kinds.The type of offer can vary … Committable vs Non committable … My favorite the “favor” offer which we did a lot of for MIF kids … Kids we have no interest in but in order to get kids like Ace and Ayo … Irvin’s say hey go ahead and offer Tamell Pearson, Marcus Watson, etc.
Every coach does things differently … Some assistants can make offers … Others can’t … Sometimes you want the HC to be the one to offer …
In this case Geoff decided an offer was necessary and Brad went with what Geoff said … Doesn’t mean it’s committable at this point …
Offering in state kids is also a good look …
Do I have a personal problem with Geoff ? No.
Do I have a basketball problem with Geoff ? Yes.
There’s a difference …
The offer came from Brad, he did make the call and I’ve never argued that but Brad and other staff members tell me Geoff thought it was the right time to offer and Brad said okay …
But hey, I’m sure you’re talking to Brad and the staff and other coaches all the time …
It takes a lot of skill to evaluate a basketball player without watching him pay basketball. LOL.
Well you know, it is possible that different people would have different opinions. In fact, it is really quite common. Instead of attacking, why not say why you disagree.
Insiders are certainly not infallible, new or old.
Yeah, I'd still give them a A-/B+ for the off-season. I'm big on results. We will see. But, to say we aren't better than last year would be wrong. I expect top four Big Ten and play to our seed in the tourney. Being able to keep Shannon and Hawkins is huge. The extra pieces are better than our extra pieces from last year.
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Well, we are all aware of this practice of non committable offers. Maybe the Insider in question can verify if this is a real offer or the kid is getting his chain yanked with a conditional offer and is embarrassing himself on Twitter.
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