Illinois at Oregon, Saturday, October 26th, 2:30pm CT, CBS

#176      
Dkayak
OrangeBlue98 said:
It will actually be interesting to see how Illinois adjusts in this area. A 12:30 Pacific time start is a 2:30 Central time start, so Illinois could stay on more of a Central time schedule. The best benefit of leaving on Thursday is really to have a full day to get the travel funk out of everyone’s systems following a long flight.
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Exactly, so no jet lag at all, just “travel funk”.

I once had to make a quick trip to the U.K. to observe an experimental manufacturing process being trialed just after midnight in England. I deliberately stayed on CST the entire time and returned home w/o jet lag. Time in the low oxygen plane can be tiring, but going a day early should take care of it.
 
#178      
ChiefGritty
SampsonRelpenk said:
Which is exactly what Illinois Football as an organization needed. We could have probably gotten a coach who'd have us higher in recruiting rankings, or some schematic wunderkind, but for God's sake we couldn't even apply a sticker on our helmet correctly.
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One trillion percent.

And there was a version of that theory with Lovie that didn't work out as planned, but Whitman didn't just swing wildly away from his prior convictions, he learned the lessons and did things better the second time.

Though it is fascinating that it was reported that Marcus Freeman (then Cincinnati DC, and I couldn't find an example of a non-P5 assistant EVER getting a P5 head job) was Whitman's second choice and very nearly got the job.

On the one hand that suggests a totally different alternative plan (recruit, recruit, recruit), on the other that was identifying a rising star in the profession very early.

Dunno if our insiders have more on that. My understanding is that the Freeman thing very nearly happened whereas Lance Leipold wasn't as primary in the search as was reported. And I've heard conflicting things on Dave Clawson.
 
#179      
OrangeBlue98
Illini-Rule said:
I think we need to pull out the camo uni's this weekend for our duck hunting excursion. /s
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Sorry, your post made this far too good to pass up. :D

Those of a certain age will instantly understand.

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#180      
fuddrules
OrangeBlue98 said:
It will actually be interesting to see how Illinois adjusts in this area. A 12:30 Pacific time start is a 2:30 Central time start, so Illinois could stay on more of a Central time schedule. The best benefit of leaving on Thursday is really to have a full day to get the travel funk out of everyone’s systems following a long flight.
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Which is what I would do. It's not as if they're flipping from day shift to night shift with no sleep in between.
 
#181      
IlliniInBuckeyeState
SampsonRelpenk said:
Which is exactly what Illinois Football as an organization needed. We could have probably gotten a coach who'd have us higher in recruiting rankings, or some schematic wunderkind, but for God's sake we couldn't even apply a sticker on our helmet correctly.
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I feel dumb asking this, but I see so many references to this and I lack all of the background/history on it. Could somebody explain it to me fully? What happened, why was it a problem, and am I correct in thinking it's fixed now? Maybe with some pictures to visually illustrate the point for me? Thanks in advance!
 
#182      
cuillini
Dkayak said:
Exactly, so no jet lag at all, just “travel funk”.

I once had to make a quick trip to the U.K. to observe an experimental manufacturing process being trialed just after midnight in England. I deliberately stayed on CST the entire time and returned home w/o jet lag. Time in the low oxygen plane can be tiring, but going a day early should take care of it.
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I live in socal now, but find it easier to adjust when flying from east to west rather than west to east. Maybe it's just me, or where I live now, but it is easier to adjust to the time difference.
 
#183      
Pikeillinifan
IlliniInBuckeyeState said:
I feel dumb asking this, but I see so many references to this and I lack all of the background/history on it. Could somebody explain it to me fully? What happened, why was it a problem, and am I correct in thinking it's fixed now? Maybe with some pictures to visually illustrate the point for me? Thanks in advance!
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Whoever applied the block "I" on their helmets did it so they looked straight while the helmet was resting on a table, but on the players' heads, it was crooked.

It was a sign that many important details were ignored or that nobody cared, either of which is not good. I still can't believe the head coach would see that and not correct it immediately. It's such a simple, yet important aspect of our visual identity, and nobody cared to correct it.
 

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#185      
SoCal Illini
ChiefGritty said:
Some head coaches are coordinators at heart, some are players at heart, fans, pundits, whatever.

Bielema is a football ops guy at heart. He's like the world's most overqualified GA. It's no wonder Belichick liked him.

He would stand up there and talk about process minutiae until the beat writers fell asleep if they'd let him.

And yes, leaving earlier to adjust to the travel is an excellent idea so long as they can get the extra day's work in Eugene okay, a subject BB has thought about in detail without a doubt.
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In my opinion that is the optimal role of a HC. Ya other things can work and do all the time but I think that approach most easily and consistently creates an environment for everyone to succeed, players and coaches. Glad BB is coaching the illini.

Oregon is tough, and has more horses than the illini, but there’s a chance. Obviously hoping for a win, but if it’s one of those games where they actually play well, but just didn’t have enough I’ll be alright with that. It’ll be disappointing if they get blown out.
 
#189      
GoDucks349
The Dying Illini said:
In all honesty I kinda of wished they left earlier. The circadian adjustment in general is very under appreciated aspect of being "prepared".

When you emphasize not beating yourself this is an easy place to start.
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I personally think the time zone issue (jet lag etc) is blown way out of proportion. Jet lag doesn't really happen till you travel more than 3 time zones and jet lag is one of the factors in circadian rythme. So it's a non issue. I traveled the US for 30 years and never had any issues with changing time zones. Illinois is a 2 time zone change and a 4 1/2 hour flight, that's not much at all. I'd rather be in my own bed an extra day than be in a hotel somewhere for an extra day.

Also, going west is a bit easier on the body than going east.
I use to prefer keeping the trips shorter. Example: I'd fly from PDX at about noon to NYC arriving that evening. Next day I'd have a 9 am, 11 am 1 pm and 3 pm meeting and catch a 6:30 pm flight back to PDX getting home around 9-10 pm
 
#190      
Dkayak
GoDucks349 said:
I personally think the time zone issue (jet lag etc) is blown way out of proportion. Jet lag doesn't really happen till you travel more than 3 time zones and jet lag is one of the factors in circadian rythme. So it's a non issue. I traveled the US for 30 years and never had any issues with changing time zones. Illinois is a 2 time zone change and a 4 1/2 hour flight, that's not much at all. I'd rather be in my own bed an extra day than be in a hotel somewhere for an extra day.

Also, going west is a bit easier on the body than going east.
I use to prefer keeping the trips shorter. Example: I'd fly from PDX at about noon to NYC arriving that evening. Next day I'd have a 9 am, 11 am 1 pm and 3 pm meeting and catch a 6:30 pm flight back to PDX getting home around 9-10 pm
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The rule of thumb is you need one day to adapt per hour of change. Two hours is peanuts and there’s no need to adapt since we play at 2:30 central. Just stay on home time and ignore local time. The Ducks are the ones who need to rise early.
 
#192      
GoDucks349
Dkayak said:
The rule of thumb is you need one day to adapt per hour of change. Two hours is peanuts and there’s no need to adapt since we play at 2:30 central. Just stay on home time and ignore local time. The Ducks are the ones who need to rise early.
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And it's not really early for the Ducks, up until this year 12:30 pm kickoffs were very common. PAC-12 network was a big factor. Personally I like the 12:30 time slot.
 
#193      
GoDucks349
Ramrod2010 said:
Regarding the noise... https://www.reddit.com/r/ducks/s/HY4IBHoSUa

I don't expect it to be as loud as we aren't the same draw as OSU, but for those unfamiliar Autzen gets ridiculously loud.

Pretty sure I had seen it referenced that they just straight up yell for 3 straight hours.
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Yea, the Autzen crowd should be plenty loud, too much on the line and it's their job to draw penalties on the opponents. I think Ohio St had 5 penalties that you could attribute to the crowd. You're coming in ranked with a 6-1 record, the crowd should be ready.

Plus, they know when to be loud and when to be quiet.
 
#195      
IlliniNash
Pikeillinifan said:
Whoever applied the block "I" on their helmets did it so they looked straight while the helmet was resting on a table, but on the players' heads, it was crooked.

It was a sign that many important details were ignored or that nobody cared, either of which is not good. I still can't believe the head coach would see that and not correct it immediately. It's such a simple, yet important aspect of our visual identity, and nobody cared to correct it.
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Yeah. That was bad. What years was that done?
 
#197      
aaeismacgychel
GoDucks349 said:
Yea, the Autzen crowd should be plenty loud, too much on the line and it's their job to draw penalties on the opponents. I think Ohio St had 5 penalties that you could attribute to the crowd. You're coming in ranked with a 6-1 record, the crowd should be ready.

Plus, they know when to be loud and when to be quiet.
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*cough* Hey, it's not that our fans don't know that, they just uhhhhhh want to make sure we're prepared for crowd noise during big offensive 3rd and 4th down plays... Uh-huh, yeah, that's it... Seriously though, we've gotta work on that.
 
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