Illinois 50, Purdue 49 OT Postgame

#476      
Bassinillini
Some random (but not necessarily unconnected) thoughts.
1. Wasn’t Walters implicated by an Illinois staffer for stealing Michigan offensive signals in 2022?
2. Sometimes those who protest the most are most guilty (see his comments about Michigan next season after PU got smashed by UM
3. Maybe Brett found out later Walters wasn’t “doing things the right way” even while at Illinois hence his comment yesterday. Also maybe not coincidence rumors of Love stealing signals.
4. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
 
#477      
Illiniaaron
ChiefGritty said:
Those were major missed opportunities, but that team had already accomplished a major big-picture step forward, it was already our best season since Zook.

(And honestly, our next 11 games after going to 7-1 in 2022 were garbage, arguably our next 17. The omens of MSU and Purdue were as bad as they looked)


I get to make a free hot take here because there's no way to prove it: we do not make a bowl game if we lose that game.

As it is that's a really, really worrying performance. We will go 5-7 if that's our team going forward. 10-2 is possible if the Nebraska performance (where we were, like, unrecognizably better in the trenches, especially defensively) is who we are going forward.

Who's the real us? We were in retrospect really bad against Kansas. The score flattered us against CMU and PSU. Hard to know.
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I think if they lost yesterday there was a great chance the wheels come off the season. You’re looking at a 99.5% chance of being 4-4 with all the indicators pointing down for the last four games.
 
#478      
RabidDawgClassic
Bassinillini said:
…coincidence rumors of Love stealing signals.
4. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
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I’d love to see video or a screen grab of Love wearing the headsets, at least to make a more reasonably educated opinion about what may or may not have happened. But more importantly, is it even possible for one team to tap into their opponent’s radio signals? I would assume there’s some sort of encryption, but I’m not at all knowledgeable about this subject.
 
#479      
TheDrinkinLincoln
RabidDawgClassic said:
I’d love to see video or a screen grab of Love wearing the headsets, at least to make a more reasonably educated opinion about what may or may not have happened. But more importantly, is it even possible for one team to tap into their opponent’s radio signals? I would assume there’s some sort of encryption, but I’m not at all knowledgeable about this subject.
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I think it's more that Love was looking at the Illinois coaches and reading hand signs from our position coaches and relaying them to the Purdue staff
 
#481      
MoCoMdIllini
gibb52 said:
The good news: We won. If you've been a fan for 10, 30, or 60 yrs you've seen many nut punches where something weird or stupid happens and we lost games just like this one.

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I spent the last few minutes of the 4th quarter saying "welp...here we go." And then the tying FG and thought "not so fast".

Then the sack to end it was this massive wave of "no f***ing way! Again?!"
 
#483      
STLini25
There is nothing improper about attempting to read/steal hand signals and almost all teams attempt to do so every game
 
#485      
illinihoosier
STLini25 said:
There is nothing improper about attempting to read/steal hand signals and almost all teams attempt to do so every game
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So why was Walters so pissed at UM and calling them out publicly on a radio show last year? Wouldn’t a coach just look the other way if it’s just a football fraternity ethical tactic to steal signs? It’s ok to do it in the game but not ok for a scout to do it as he claimed? Help me understand.
 
#488      
Mr. Tibbs
illinihoosier said:
So why was Walters so pissed at UM and calling them out publicly on a radio show last year? Wouldn’t a coach just look the other way if it’s just a football fraternity ethical tactic to steal signs? It’s ok to do it in the game but not ok for a scout to do it as he claimed? Help me understand.
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UM was doing it in advance of the game using non players & non coaches

I believe all coaches do whatever they can during the game using players or people with binoculars from the press box .

jmo
 
#490      
Illinijoe
One observation - the students have shown up this season but very disappointing when a lot just leave at halftime. This happened vs CMU and PU. Of course it is better then not showing up at all but come on.
 
#491      
STLini25
illinihoosier said:
So why was Walters so pissed at UM and calling them out publicly on a radio show last year? Wouldn’t a coach just look the other way if it’s just a football fraternity ethical tactic to steal signs? It’s ok to do it in the game but not ok for a scout to do it as he claimed? Help me understand.
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Michigan was sending an individual to games in person and filming sidelines. Not only is that illegal, just attending game (advanced scouting) is illegal. Advanced scouting is completely different than attempting to decipher hand signals during your actual game.
 
#493      
Dkayak
Illini2010-11 said:
The way that Purdue was defending, Illini could easily get 18 yards, or more likely a defensive pi. Purdue was all over receivers on virtually every play.
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But you’re saying getting defensive PI called was pretty unlikely.
 
#494      
RML
Dkayak said:
Success probability drops under 10% from there. Seems like we traded 90% probability of one point for 90% probability of zero. Accept the single point and there would have been no OT.
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If you have it, what's the probability of a team scoring sixteen points in five minutes, which is what needed to happen for that missed extra point to matter?
 
#495      
Jsehn
JJE said:
Good thing we won today because Oregon’s gonna take us to the woodshed in a couple weeks.
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And the point of the post is.... Let's enjoy the victory and get focused on next week. Bottom line is that this team had the moxie to withstand extraordinary pressure, quite unlike the OP.
 
#496      
STLini25
RML said:
If you have it, what's the probability of a team scoring sixteen points in five minutes, which is what needed to happen for that missed extra point to matter?
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Why 16? They were down 12 after the missed conversion. Teams with the ball and all their timeouts can score 14 points in 5 minutes.
 
#497      
Mr. Tibbs
RML said:
If you have it, what's the probability of a team scoring sixteen points in five minutes, which is what needed to happen for that missed extra point to matter?
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in general ?
or at that point in the game when they were seemingly scoring at will ?
 
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