Illini Women's Basketball 2024-2025

#51      
I can't count the number of times our guards had incredible drive and kick opportunities where it was clear they never had any intention of kicking to shooters. Maybe they shooters were that open because teams knew our tendency to not pass out on drives, but for a little while we should still have some pretty wide open looks before teams adjust.

And once they adjust our guards can finish on much cleaner looks in the paint.
 
#52      
I can't count the number of times our guards had incredible drive and kick opportunities where it was clear they never had any intention of kicking to shooters. Maybe they shooters were that open because teams knew our tendency to not pass out on drives, but for a little while we should still have some pretty wide open looks before teams adjust.

And once they adjust our guards can finish on much cleaner looks in the paint.
Hopefully Green is practicing driving and kicking out to open shooters (Shoup-Hill, Bostic, Wallace, Dolan, Catoira, Bollin) or dumping off inside to Bostick, Shoup-Hill, Vasconcelos, Catoira for easier (higher %) layups among the trees. Illinois guards can use their speed when lane is open to drive unmolested to the hoop. But when they see opponents converge on them, leaving their teammates wide open, they definitely should pass them the ball and get a bucket with an assist than take low percentage shots. Illinois has a lot of good shooters on team now, so that guards (and other teammates) can find open shooters with a better shot. This season playing with more more maturity and court vision can pay off in easier scoring against tough guarding teams (incl. those tall, athletic, physical teams), staying neck and neck with the top teams in scoring and hopefully notching more wins.
 
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#53      
I can't count the number of times our guards had incredible drive and kick opportunities where it was clear they never had any intention of kicking to shooters. Maybe they shooters were that open because teams knew our tendency to not pass out on drives, but for a little while we should still have some pretty wide open looks before teams adjust.

Definitely was ugly at times last season because there were forced shots. Same time they won the WBIT because of the group that forced shots. When Cook is hot this team looked like a borderline top 25 team. Hottest streak she had shooting was during the WBIT.

It was frustrating to watch Cook and Bryant force shots but there wasn't a heavy outside presence outside of them from deep. Shoup-Hill went cold from first season with IL, McKenzie doesn't shoot many 3's let alone well, Bollin and Dolan had offensive moments but defensive lapses which limited minutes, etc. The good thing is we have another year with this core to develop plus the additions. I won't give Cook, Bryant and Bostic a pass if they have a bad stretch but it's time the rest of the team steps up with some sort of consistency to lessen the burden on the Big 3.


Different note but Illinois has never had a talent like Divine Bourrage if she commits. Fingers crossed for a side bag of money to show up :ROFLMAO:
 
#54      
After Cook came back from injury, she wasn't the same player for awhile. By the end of the season they were playing really well. Can't really look at the season as a whole, but as a before and after recovery.
 
#55      
After Cook came back from injury, she wasn't the same player for awhile. By the end of the season they were playing really well. Can't really look at the season as a whole, but as a before and after recovery.
The Cook injury was a killer. If they can be full strength with some solid depth I think top 25 is a realistic goal.
 
#56      
After Cook came back from injury, she wasn't the same player for awhile. By the end of the season they were playing really well. Can't really look at the season as a whole, but as a before and after recovery.

Not really follow this take

She missed the first 3 games of the season and took her a few weeks to return to form. Her shot was inconsistent for majority of the season. Same thing happened year before when she missed a few games and conference play started. Cook was on a heater during the WBIT. It isn't the norm but hopefully she can stay hot/consistent with her shot this upcoming season.

26 regular season/conference tourney games Cook shot 50% or better in only 5 games

5 WBIT games Cook shot 50% or better in 4 games plus shot 11-17 from 3 point range
 
#57      
Not really follow this take

She missed the first 3 games of the season and took her a few weeks to return to form. Her shot was inconsistent for majority of the season. Same thing happened year before when she missed a few games and conference play started. Cook was on a heater during the WBIT. It isn't the norm but hopefully she can stay hot/consistent with her shot this upcoming season.

26 regular season/conference tourney games Cook shot 50% or better in only 5 games

5 WBIT games Cook shot 50% or better in 4 games plus shot 11-17 from 3 point range
Cook was pressing most of the year that led to forced shots.

She doesn’t have to do it all anymore. The sooner she figures that out and adapts, the better we will be.
 
#58      
Cook was pressing most of the year that led to forced shots.

She doesn’t have to do it all anymore. The sooner she figures that out and adapts, the better we will be.
Cook was pressed because she has been the only playmaker on the team. It has more to do with the supporting cast than her changing play. If others can STEP UP than she will not force as many shots.

Agree about forced shots from any player but she is one of the few that can shoot or make a play off the dribble. Hopefully more than just Cook can do that this upcoming season because it will make us a better squad.
 
#59      
I'd like to stop the dribble drive to the hoop and replace it with a pull-up 10-footer. Our guards are simply too short to score down low. And McKenzie needs to work on her layups. Every time she gets the ball down low (often after an offensive rebound), she looks over her left shoulder to see who is coming in to block her shot. And that hesitation causes her to miss the layup. Or get it blocked. Just go up strong, and you'll be a double-double machine!
 
#60      
Rlouizjr01, I think what ILLHoopsterFan means, is that Illini women can still be a much better team if they worked ball around for better shots all game long, they would win more and win more consistently. In 2023-2024 season, Cook and Bryant took 856 shots to whole team's 2095 shots (Cook 447, Bryant 409). Those two took about 41% of the total team's shots. Obviously they led the team in scoring taking that many shots but both only shot 40% each. They were not the best shots the team could have taken. In contrast, Bostic only took 294 shots but shot 60%, Hobby 245 shots at 53%, McKenzie 304 shots at 49%. The team only averaged an assist/made shot 50% ratio, which is not even close to what the better teams average. The US women's Olympic team has averaged a stunning 85% assist/made shot ratio and and the best college teams exceed 70% by contrast. There is room for improvement in getting better shots. This season Illini have a lot of talent across the board and opportunity is there to take better shots (better than that 40% Cook/Bryant averaged). If guards work ball for better shots, distribute more to Bostic, Shoup-Hill, Wallace, Dolan, McKenzie, Vasconcelos, Hagger, etc, that will open up lane for higher percentage shots and find most open teammates. Cook and Bryant should still drive the ball when lane opens (not when 3 players bottle them up) and take open outside shots when available unless a teammate has a better shot. When you have skilled teammates, trust your teammates and find the hot hands.
I understand that they have lower shooting percentages,but we can attribute to being the only two to take a lions share of the 3pt atare this yeartempts and scheme somewhat.The offense has a green light on drive and dish or shoot.Also the early schedule was tougher ,but tougher because of the early concussion and what it did to the early continuity of the team.The new players that were to contribute made it a certainty there would be forced shots.. All those factors can be considered excuses but you show me what potential upgrades that came off the bench before Makiras concussion or after her recovery..? A freshman got acclimated and contributed but no real PG back up beyond Genesis
Shoup Hill ,Bollin and Hobby Were lacking in contributions. But as they are this year Wallace,Brown Haggard,and the centers are competing for minutes which will sharpen Bollin ,Cori Allen and expectations of Dolan's improve ment..These factors should make ieasier shots for all because the options have grown..I have stated on earlier post I'm expecting 25 to 29 wins this year because of these factors..We NEED IT for the recruitment to upgrade...It's not bad but it needs to sustain or increase...
 
#61      
I'd like to stop the dribble drive to the hoop and replace it with a pull-up 10-footer. Our guards are simply too short to score down low. And McKenzie needs to work on her layups. Every time she gets the ball down low (often after an offensive rebound), she looks over her left shoulder to see who is coming in to block her shot. And that hesitation causes her to miss the layup. Or get it blocked. Just go up strong, and you'll be a double-double machine!
McKenzie shot 53 percent as a guard for the year... Now if she boost the free throw percentages and maybe a good streak or two from the three, from my view we would be an elite eight team... look at LSU last year...
 
#62      
McKenzie shot 53 percent as a guard for the year... Now if she boost the free throw percentages and maybe a good streak or two from the three, from my view we would be an elite eight team... look at LSU last year...

Do you believe McKenzie is going to light it up from deep? I don't. Also don't think we are close to an Elite 8 team if it happens.

McKenzie 3 pointers by year
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2021-22 1-14

2022-23 8-37

2023-24 3-14
 
#63      
Do you believe McKenzie is going to light it up from deep? I don't. Also don't think we are close to an Elite 8 team if it happens.

McKenzie 3 pointers by year
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2021-22 1-14

2022-23 8-37

2023-24 3-14
No I don't think she will LIGHT IT UP, I just said have a few streaks where she takes more and maybe go 32 to 35 percent from there.. We don't need her to really.We need her to stay a defensive gem and more often offensive explosions which is VERY possible.
 
#64      
No I don't think she will LIGHT IT UP, I just said have a few streaks where she takes more and maybe go 32 to 35 percent from there.. We don't need her to really.We need her to stay a defensive gem and more often offensive explosions which is VERY possible.
Look at us having the experience the previous and current winning..Every years teams with what we have as experience with 5 seniors who have played extensively in the league,plus adding legitimate talent in an All American and two level headed but young giants ..All the increased experience from role players like Bollin and Dolan,.I'm happy to have Brown Haggar..I'm thinking I'm talking depth experience and damn good coaching is all spoken for... The only X factor to me was adding new strong teams to the league. It may hurt the final numbers but increase the seasoning for the postseason...Have I laid out my case well enough?
 
#65      
No I don't think she will LIGHT IT UP, I just said have a few streaks where she takes more and maybe go 32 to 35 percent from there.. We don't need her to really.We need her to stay a defensive gem and more often offensive explosions which is VERY possible.
Your take above was if she hits 32 to 35% from 3pt range you believe they can be an elite 8 team. I'm not attacking you, just don't agree with the hot take. She has only made multiple 3 pointers once in her career and it was a non-conference blowout game. I wish she had a better shot from outside as well. Adalia is the defensive glue of this team. One of the few players nationally who can score 0-5 points and still have + rating because of her defense.
 
#66      
JMO our best chance of improvement

- Berry Wallace 6'1" steps into starting lineup immediately and gives us 12 ppg 8 rbg adding her strength to our Cook/Bryant/Bostic core
- Dolan goes from 5 ppg to 12 ppg
- Only Bostic was reliable from 3 (40%). Everybody else was closer to 30%. We need some people to get over 35%.

Iowa had 5 players who took a lot of 3's over 35%..... Clark 38%, Martin 37%, Marshall 36% Davis 41%
 
#67      
Your take above was if she hits 32 to 35% from 3pt range you believe they can be an elite 8 team. I'm not attacking you, just don't agree with the hot take. She has only made multiple 3 pointers once in her career and it was a non-conference blowout game. I wish she had a better shot from outside as well. Adalia is the defensive glue of this team. One of the few players nationally who can score 0-5 points and still have + rating because of her defense.
I don't feel attacked at all Gill..I love the debate..I've played basketball a long time.I have a son in college that's very similar to Adalia who in some ways is on the cusp of being a superstar.. The two things she is missing is the three and consistency,but keeps her and ten thousand others in that potential bag..But really I want the discourse to increase on here BTW.. Please come to Illinois Divine Bour age and the rest will follow,lol
 
#68      
JMO our best chance of improvement

- Berry Wallace 6'1" steps into starting lineup immediately and gives us 12 ppg 8 rbg adding her strength to our Cook/Bryant/Bostic core
- Dolan goes from 5 ppg to 12 ppg
- Only Bostic was reliable from 3 (40%). Everybody else was closer to 30%. We need some people to get over 35%.

Iowa had 5 players who took a lot of 3's over 35%..... Clark 38%, Martin 37%, Marshall 36% Davis 41%
I'm betting a lot of those percentages go down this year now that they Are not so open anymore...I hope we get additional double digit scorers also...I'm banking on it..It's what I base my 25 to 29 wins projections on.
 
#70      
- Only Bostic was reliable from 3 (40%). Everybody else was closer to 30%. We need some people to get over 35%.
Bostic has really worked on her outside shot in the past year.

0-25 first two seasons at Illinois and 9-22 last season. I would actually like to see her take a few more this season. Bostic is a little slow defending the 3 with agile bigs but she should use that same element on the offensive end to her game.

Cook and Bryant are right around 35% line in bulk shooting

I've seen this team practice a few times and this is the best team I have seen in with Green. Think some need to tame expectations because this isn't a 30 win team or serious championship contender. Going back to easier non-conference schedule and anything less than making NCAA Tournament is a letdown.
 
#71      
Well I was thinking 25 to 29 wins,just like the men's team.5 seniors, transfer, experienced returners, quality transfers and bushy tailed( but big) freshmen.. Almost an exact copy.
 
#73      
'25 PG Aubrey Galvan of Loyola Academy (Wilmette, IL) to Vanderbilt

Terrific smaller pg; considered no.2 in the state behind another 5'6 pg Destiny Jackson. Don't know if we were recruiting her or not, but I certainly hope that we don't miss on Jackson.
 
#74      
Terrific smaller pg; considered no.2 in the state behind another 5'6 pg Destiny Jackson. Don't know if we were recruiting her or not, but I certainly hope that we don't miss on Jackson.
We have to get one.Divine or Destiny,but thinking about it we are a 2 point guard system now so there's room for both.O do like the Cearah player a lot as well...I would be happy to get the Alaskan one also...It's nerve racking that we have no recruits in yet...I wonder who is close...Does anybody know
 
#75      
We have to get one.Divine or Destiny,but thinking about it we are a 2 point guard system now so there's room for both.O do like the Cearah player a lot as well...I would be happy to get the Alaskan one also...It's nerve racking that we have no recruits in yet...I wonder who is close...Does anybody know
Really miss Baskin's Tiger; too bad he no longer has a connect. Are you still lurking?
 
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