Illini Basketball 2024-2025

#151      
I'm a bit worried that we're hearing reports about Rodgers playing "good cop".

We all know Underwood's style doesn't mesh with everyone. By gosh do we know it with how many players turn into pouters that leave even when they get good minutes. The season hasn't already started yet... I don't love the idea that there could already be guys struggling with Underwood's teaching methods. I'm hoping this isn't another 2022-23.
I know coaches need to find a balance in their style, but there shouldn't be a surprise about who Underwood is and how he coaches. If a player or their family don't realize this, they haven't done their research. I get a annoyed sometimes when I see him screaming in the face of a player at every timeout, but if we are going to be an elite program, we have to expect that we have high standards. The difference between great and elite is literally inches or half seconds. Underwood's track record speak for itself. It's clear he isn't only about yelling, because you see the water guns, the hot tub picture, etc, (Bobby Knight or Gene Keady would not have done that) so I appreciate a coach that says, if you can't take it, then the door is open.
 
#153      
Obviously I Brad is a good coach and I bleed orange and blue but I with BU would adjust his yelling style a bit. I grew up with that kind of coaching and it never bothered me while I played but watching it from afar feels uncomfortable. Optics also doesn't look very good when we need tweets explaining Ty Rodgers playing "the good cop" by defending BU's style when it should be a non-story.

Maybe its just me getting old and soft but I imagine this impacts recruiting too.
Ayo and TSJ seemed to have loved Underwood.
 
#155      
Obviously I Brad is a good coach and I bleed orange and blue but I with BU would adjust his yelling style a bit. I grew up with that kind of coaching and it never bothered me while I played but watching it from afar feels uncomfortable. Optics also doesn't look very good when we need tweets explaining Ty Rodgers playing "the good cop" by defending BU's style when it should be a non-story.

Maybe it’s just me getting old and soft but I imagine this impacts recruiting too.
Have you seen this year’s recruiting class?
 
#156      
I didn't read the article but only gleaned enough information to get myself riled up... So thems fighting words. Let's get em boys!
I remember Brad's first one or two years with the portal and he sort of fell victim to the very things that Painter points out.
But, last year made me think that he's learned a lot from those experiences and now recruits the portal based almost as much on character as skills.
And it worked!
He built a heck of a team and it gel'ed pretty fast. And went to the Elite Eight.

So, my takeaway is that when Paint needs to go the portal route, he is likely to suffer those same early results.
I saw a little good news in there. One less arrow in Paint's quiver.
Not to worry.
In Brad we trust.
 
#157      
The writer (or Painter?) probably got his facts mixed up given that Coleman just recently transferred out of Illinois. He could also have assumed that Coleman is one of the many players nowadays that have had multiple transfers 🤷‍♂️.
My guess is the writer meant to put Marcus Domask in there, not Coleman Hawkins.
 
#160      
We went the players coach route with Groce and see where that got us. BU coaches hard and recruits great. He also has transfers, which is obviously occurs elsewhere too. So far I’ll deal with anything BU wants to do because he has the results and recruits to back it up.
 
#161      
BU throwing shade at his team with the 7th grade hanging 100 on them is...elite level motivation tactics.
BU doesn't throw shade, he speaks the truth.

Guys coming from overseas won't be used to the physicality, freshmen won't be used to the physicality and transfers generally have a better feel depending on what conference they came from.

My guess is that only Rodgers is meeting his expectations this early. One thing about coach...if you don't play defense, you don't play period and some kids don't take well to that.

It'll be an interesting first two months.
 
#162      
BU doesn't throw shade, he speaks the truth.

Guys coming from overseas won't be used to the physicality, freshmen won't be used to the physicality and transfers generally have a better feel depending on what conference they came from.

My guess is that only Rodgers is meeting his expectations this early. One thing about coach...if you don't play defense, you don't play period and some kids don't take well to that.

It'll be an interesting first two months.

This: “can’t guard 7th graders” bit is classic, coach-speak stuff.

I’m sure he is mostly straight forward and truthful but I also think:
If you look up hyperbole in the dictionary…there might as well be an illustration of Brad Underwood right by it.
 
#163      
This: “can’t guard 7th graders” bit is classic, coach-speak stuff.

I’m sure he is mostly straight forward and truthful but I also think:
If you look up hyperbole in the dictionary…there might as well be an illustration of Brad Underwood right by it.
I mostly agree but not sure it’s too much hyperbole. Brad wants strong defense and we have a lot of new guys and young guys. He wants them to step up on D. D will win titles. Love Brad!
 
#164      
BU doesn't throw shade, he speaks the truth.

Guys coming from overseas won't be used to the physicality, freshmen won't be used to the physicality and transfers generally have a better feel depending on what conference they came from.

My guess is that only Rodgers is meeting his expectations this early. One thing about coach...if you don't play defense, you don't play period and some kids don't take well to that.

It'll be an interesting first two months.
LOL.

I think BU rarely speaks the truth. Mostly he just speaks in a way that he thinks will get results. I take everything that he says with a grain of salt.
 
#165      
I mostly agree but not sure it’s too much hyperbole. Brad wants strong defense and we have a lot of new guys and young guys. He wants them to step up on D. D will win titles. Love Brad!
Are you telling me that everyone and everything isn’t “elite?”
 
#166      
BU doesn't throw shade, he speaks the truth.

Guys coming from overseas won't be used to the physicality, freshmen won't be used to the physicality and transfers generally have a better feel depending on what conference they came from.

My guess is that only Rodgers is meeting his expectations this early. One thing about coach...if you don't play defense, you don't play period and some kids don't take well to that.

It'll be an interesting first two months.
For most coaches, if you don't play defense, you don't play. I actually think it's less true of Underwood than of most coaches.
 
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