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Not sure where to put this until the Illinois in NBA thread comes back
Fun review of Terrance Shannon in summer league games killing it.
Fun review of Terrance Shannon in summer league games killing it.
blackdog
- Champaign
Shannon is literally a man amongst boys in Summer League. I think the NBA still hasn't wrapped its head around that if you're a playoff contender, when you take a guy like Shannon, you're essentially getting at worst a sixth man on a rookie contract and that's really what those teams should be looking for from a draft pick.
Oh no! What does that say about our defense?
Except for the grey beard Kendall looks like he could still play! I think he might have a year of eligeability left (covid year?)
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The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
The thing about TSJ's game is that it's so immediately obvious how it'll translate to the NBA. I can't imagine actually watching a couple of his games last season and not understanding that he has a role in the league. The two dings I saw in the pre-draft write-ups about him felt like the authors didn't watch full games. Instead, they were just going off the highlights, cherry-picking some stats, and making assumptions.
First, I saw that he was ball-dominant and there were questions about how much he would need the ball to be successful. As we all know, Marcus was the one who primarily had the ball in his hands. TSJ let the game come to him and picked his spots. Yeah, his usage was high, but he was rarely forcing anything. The only difference between what he did for us and what he will do in the NBA is that he'll have fewer spots with guys like Ant and KAT on the floor. His ability to get to the basket, push in transition, and hit catch and shoot threes translates.
Second, I saw some questioning his defense, which is crazy. Yeah, his defensive numbers weren't that impressive, but that's because he was doing so much on the offensive end and playing a ton of minutes. Despite that, he would completely lock down his man when we needed him to. Plus, all you have to do is look at his body and athleticism to see he has all the tools to be a plus defender. With fewer minutes and an emphasis on defense, he will make his man's life heII.
Yeah, I understand if you're a rebuilding team you're looking for a lottery ticket. I'm a Wizards fan and wouldn't have been thrilled if we drafted TSJ, even though I would have had that jersey the first day. But every team that's built to win now, they're foolish for not grabbing him. He's about as plug-and-play as any player in this draft.
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Totally agree. He can fit so many roles in the NBA. Transition menace.... Check. 3 and d guy to play of a star and within flow of the game... Check. Finish at the rim with athleticism... Check. Good teammate and locker room guy.... Check.
Joel Goodson
- dawgville
yep, Shannon is going to make a lot of GMs look foolish
His brother Z didn’t get cleared until Jan 2024. Hopefully they talked lol and T was able to get paperwork straightened out ahead of time before making the move. And Antigua went through the process as well so he should have learned from the situation.
Sounds like everything is clear on our end, but it’s the Croatian Embassy that’s dragging its feet. You can dot all the i’s and cross the t’s all day, but you can’t rush bureaucracy— foreign or domestic.
Tell them to look it up in the dictionary...They're asking about their NIL money
Maybe I missed it, but has a GM(s) or NBA coach(es) said they didn’t think Shannon had a role in the league? Just because some teams passed on him doesn’t mean they think he has no role in NBA. Just means that they liked another player more or they had other needs that they found more pressing or a combination of both. Would it have been better if he went 6 or 8 or however many picks higher to a bad team or bad fit. Because of his age, it was unlikely he was going to be a lottery pick. I think he went to a great situation and team. I’m not sure if there was a better landing spot for him given the range in which he was likely to go. He was a first round pick and went to a great spot. Sure it cost him some money, but he may well make that up in the future because of the opportunity he’ll have on a good team. I think he ended up right where he was meant to.
To be fair, those GMs that took a pass had some fairly decent grounds for pause. Minnesota had a couple of first round picks, have a young and extremely talented roster and were able to have a soft landing regardless.
If you had a lottery pick and you're a GM, maybe having question one from the media being about his history wasn't too appetizing. The second he was drafted, that topic was the first item addressed, which kinda sucked, but it was expected.
I'm not sure if any questions ever arose, but compared to some of the other media markets... Minneapolis is child's play.
I don't think that his talent was ever in question.
Seriously. Hope our Alma Mater has good FCPA advice.
NBA drafts on potentials a lot. I think the main reason he is selected at 27 is due to his age.
That could be part of it. He's clearly a lottery pick talent. Nobody GM will dispute that. There were a couple of things working against him:
1)Age (to your point). It's the direction of the league to talk the younger player.
2)A bit of a difficult situation he was putting behind him. Unless he's a generational talent, why risk the bad pub if you can find a comparable player?
3)I think there are still questions about finishing his right hand. We'll see. I think he proved enough at the end of the year, but he didn't get a legitimate combine shot.
If you're the GM and you're entrusted with millions and you have a top 10 pick....he better be young with crazy upside or a generational talent. TJ, unfortunately, doesn't fall into either category.
Minnesota had the luxury of having multiple picks(NY did too). Low risk, huge reward. Unless TJ feels the need to create some self motivation (MJ did this yearly)....there wasn't a GM that slighted or overlooked his abilities. That just my take. I wish the Bulls took him, but I'm completely biased.
1)Age (to your point). It's the direction of the league to talk the younger player.
2)A bit of a difficult situation he was putting behind him. Unless he's a generational talent, why risk the bad pub if you can find a comparable player?
3)I think there are still questions about finishing his right hand. We'll see. I think he proved enough at the end of the year, but he didn't get a legitimate combine shot.
If you're the GM and you're entrusted with millions and you have a top 10 pick....he better be young with crazy upside or a generational talent. TJ, unfortunately, doesn't fall into either category.
Minnesota had the luxury of having multiple picks(NY did too). Low risk, huge reward. Unless TJ feels the need to create some self motivation (MJ did this yearly)....there wasn't a GM that slighted or overlooked his abilities. That just my take. I wish the Bulls took him, but I'm completely biased.
#18 Orlando - built to win now I think we can all agree - Tristan Da Silva.
#20 Cleveland - built to win now I think we can all agree - Jaylon Tyson.
#21 Milwaukee - built to win now I think we can all agree - AJ Johnson.
*Knicks - win now team as well - but only reason for not listing them is because it might not have been a great fit for him as they have plenty of wing depth...but at the end of the day, they do fit the criteria of "built to win now" and names like Keyshawn George and Pacome Dadiet are taken above him for the record books after all so...
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