Riley absolutely DANGLED Carey Booth on the last highlight play.
Would substitute White for Will. Will still get serious minutes as that young body develops into rugged BIG toughness. Also big minutes for Morez, Booth and Rodgers. We've got two serious stretch fours in Ben and Booth.Kylan
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Not entirely clear, but I think these are examples of guys Shannon should have been picked higher then. If so, I think Da Silva fills a different role (PF/SF) while Shannon is much more SG/SF. Da Silva was a better 3-point shooter in college and in the small summer league sample size that has proven to be the case. Both are having good summer leagues.#18 Orlando - built to win now I think we can all agree - Tristan Da Silva.
#20 Cleveland - built to win now I think we can all agree - Jaylon Tyson.
#21 Milwaukee - built to win now I think we can all agree - AJ Johnson.
*Knicks - win now team as well - but only reason for not listing them is because it might not have been a great fit for him as they have plenty of wing depth...but at the end of the day, they do fit the criteria of "built to win now" and names like Keyshawn George and Pacome Dadiet are taken above him for the record books after all so...![]()
IL MBB clip, but the text is what's important. couldn't agree more. barring injury, Riley is a one and done
GMs are gonna be rather excited over this kid
Loved the OA smile at the end of the videoIL MBB clip, but the text is what's important. couldn't agree more. barring injury, Riley is a one and done
GMs are gonna be rather excited over this kid
Don't know why you think the 5 is "open." Ivisic and Morez look solid to me. I would expect Ivisic to be a force from day one.The 5 is the most open spot right now imo. Could be Ben as a small ball 5 at times, could be Morez, could be Ivisic
I dont think anybody is surprised by KJ. He's projected as a first round pick, he was expected to be one of the, if not the best, players on the floorany chance Ivisic will come in and surprise the staff like KJ has?
Will.i.am betting he's gonna be a stud.Will i am buying his stock right now.
You actually did it better.Will.i.am betting he's gonna be a stud.
Please stop making sense.Maybe I missed it, but has a GM(s) or NBA coach(es) said they didn’t think Shannon had a role in the league? Just because some teams passed on him doesn’t mean they think he has no role in NBA. Just means that they liked another player more or they had other needs that they found more pressing or a combination of both. Would it have been better if he went 6 or 8 or however many picks higher to a bad team or bad fit. Because of his age, it was unlikely he was going to be a lottery pick. I think he went to a great situation and team. I’m not sure if there was a better landing spot for him given the range in which he was likely to go. He was a first round pick and went to a great spot. Sure it cost him some money, but he may well make that up in the future because of the opportunity he’ll have on a good team. I think he ended up right where he was meant to.
That's the new move for the kids these days. You have to let refs know about it otherwise it's gonna be a double dribble. Looks like Will let it get a little too close on that one.It's easy to dangle a guy when you double dribble lol. Still some good looking clips otherwise.
Can't remember all the names off the top of my head, but there def. haven't been many. Ochai Agbaji might be one, but that's the only one I can think of.Not entirely clear, but I think these are examples of guys Shannon should have been picked higher then. If so, I think Da Silva fills a different role (PF/SF) while Shannon is much more SG/SF. Da Silva was a better 3-point shooter in college and in the small summer league sample size that has proven to be the case. Both are having good summer leagues.
Jaylon Tyson also has different role, being more SF than TSJ (and Clev pretty strong at guard). I don’t watch tons of NBA games, but living in Ohio I see more Cav games than other teams and would argue Jaylon is a better fit for what they need. He is also 1.5 years younger than TSJ. He also has been a better 3 point shooter in college. He like TSJ and Da Silva has had a nice Summer League so far.
Johnson pick over TSJ baffles me a bit, but he is very young. So despite being in win now mode, I guess they thought upside was too great of the two guys you attribute to Knicks, one was drafted for Wizards (George) and the other could well be a draft and stash (and plays different position that is more of a need).
I think TSJ could certainly have gone higher, but there are legitimate reasons teams went another direction. Will some GMs regret passing on him? I’m sure some will in retrospect as not every draft pick works out and TSJ has a high floor. You have to remember too that this is TSJ’s second bite at the apple having withdrawn from draft last year — presumably because he would have been a second round pick if drafted at all. Yes, he improved his game, but how many guys withdraw from draft and then get drafted in top half of first round the next year? Edey comes to mind this year (I assume he tested waters last year but don’t know for sure), but despite what a lot of people on board say about no NBA role for Edey he does have tremendous size. Have there been a lot of others who have improved their draft stock enough to overcome being another year older and rocketed up draft boards?
I like TSJ and will enjoy rooting for him. I also think he’ll do well in part because where he ended up. Everything worked out as it should.
I think it is also important the team and role that TSJ will have. Timberwolves seems to be a good spot, Conley is aging and small PG. You have ANT who is a ball dominate guard, adding another big SG along with ANT would be complimentary. TSJ is not a ball dominant guard in the half court, he can take quick 3's or drive after receiving the ball. He also can rebound and go...starting a fast break as a PG. Domask was our ball dominate player and TSJ played well with him.Not entirely clear, but I think these are examples of guys Shannon should have been picked higher then. If so, I think Da Silva fills a different role (PF/SF) while Shannon is much more SG/SF. Da Silva was a better 3-point shooter in college and in the small summer league sample size that has proven to be the case. Both are having good summer leagues.
Jaylon Tyson also has different role, being more SF than TSJ (and Clev pretty strong at guard). I don’t watch tons of NBA games, but living in Ohio I see more Cav games than other teams and would argue Jaylon is a better fit for what they need. He is also 1.5 years younger than TSJ. He also has been a better 3 point shooter in college. He like TSJ and Da Silva has had a nice Summer League so far.
Johnson pick over TSJ baffles me a bit, but he is very young. So despite being in win now mode, I guess they thought upside was too great of the two guys you attribute to Knicks, one was drafted for Wizards (George) and the other could well be a draft and stash (and plays different position that is more of a need).
I think TSJ could certainly have gone higher, but there are legitimate reasons teams went another direction. Will some GMs regret passing on him? I’m sure some will in retrospect as not every draft pick works out and TSJ has a high floor. You have to remember too that this is TSJ’s second bite at the apple having withdrawn from draft last year — presumably because he would have been a second round pick if drafted at all. Yes, he improved his game, but how many guys withdraw from draft and then get drafted in top half of first round the next year? Edey comes to mind this year (I assume he tested waters last year but don’t know for sure), but despite what a lot of people on board say about no NBA role for Edey he does have tremendous size. Have there been a lot of others who have improved their draft stock enough to overcome being another year older and rocketed up draft boards?
I like TSJ and will enjoy rooting for him. I also think he’ll do well in part because where he ended up. Everything worked out as it should.
I believe that's a misleading angle. Didn't appear to be a double dribble live speed, imo.View attachment 35817
Kelly Pfeifer and Courtney Green gonna be licking their whistles just waiting for him to try this.
I didn't see a double dribble.It's easy to dangle a guy when you double dribble lol. Still some good looking clips otherwise.
There are 14 players in the lottery, Will's 19th on 247 for high school recruits, so doesn't include Europeans. I'm not saying he won't be great, but everything could go right and he still could be picked outside the top 14.Barring injury or some other unforeseen drama, Will is a lottery pick.
If TSJ was 20-21 at the same point in his skill set...he also would have been a lottery pick. The TWolves essentially got a seasoned lottery pick at 27.
These are indeed heady times on the banks of the ole Boneyard.....