Former Illini in College Basketball 24-25

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RabidDawgClassic
One K-State fan’s take on Coleman after one game. I’d say he pretty much nailed it:

I do not know what to think of Hawkins. Seems slow and not very athletic but great hands and ball skills for a 6 10 guy. Sees the court and great passer but looks like he struggles to create his own shot. Reminds me of Larry Williams from way back in Hartmans first few seasons.

One thing did stand out. Hawkins whines too much. Surprised me to see an experienced player do that. Did not impress me when he grabbed his eye like he was really hurt and gave them an easy basket. Then got mad that Tang took him out due to his "eye injury".

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#79      
Illini IndyCar Fan
RabidDawgClassic said:
One K-State fan’s take on Coleman after one game. I’d say he pretty much nailed it:

I do not know what to think of Hawkins. Seems slow and not very athletic but great hands and ball skills for a 6 10 guy. Sees the court and great passer but looks like he struggles to create his own shot. Reminds me of Larry Williams from way back in Hartmans first few seasons.

One thing did stand out. Hawkins whines too much. Surprised me to see an experienced player do that. Did not impress me when he grabbed his eye like he was really hurt and gave them an easy basket. Then got mad that Tang took him out due to his "eye injury".

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Another good post about CoHawk:

Hawkins has been described as a connector. J looked this term up., and it defined as..

"A connector in basketball is a player who can positively impact the team without dominating the game. They can do this through their play, leadership, and ability to connect the offense from one side of the floor to the other. "

I think this applies to Hawkins. He was off in scoring, but seem to be contributing in other ways such as 9 rebounds and 5 assists. He help bring the ball up court often and is a good passer. I wonder how much his ball handling and passing skills aided in the low number of turnovers.
 
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foby
RabidDawgClassic said:
One K-State fan’s take on Coleman after one game. I’d say he pretty much nailed it:

I do not know what to think of Hawkins. Seems slow and not very athletic but great hands and ball skills for a 6 10 guy. Sees the court and great passer but looks like he struggles to create his own shot. Reminds me of Larry Williams from way back in Hartmans first few seasons.

One thing did stand out. Hawkins whines too much. Surprised me to see an experienced player do that. Did not impress me when he grabbed his eye like he was really hurt and gave them an easy basket. Then got mad that Tang took him out due to his "eye injury".

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Did he even watch that play? Dude's fingers went straight into CH's eye. Crazy.
 
#81      
foby
Illini IndyCar Fan said:
Another good post about CoHawk:

Hawkins has been described as a connector. J looked this term up., and it defined as..

"A connector in basketball is a player who can positively impact the team without dominating the game. They can do this through their play, leadership, and ability to connect the offense from one side of the floor to the other. "

I think this applies to Hawkins. He was off in scoring, but seem to be contributing in other ways such as 9 rebounds and 5 assists. He help bring the ball up court often and is a good passer. I wonder how much his ball handling and passing skills aided in the low number of turnovers.
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This person obviously knows something about basketball. The other, not as much.
 
#83      
EyeoftheIllini
EyeoftheIllini said:
Epps with 17-1-3 for G’Town in their win tonight.
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I’ll be very interested to see how Epps does this season. Seemed to be some on here who really liked to hate on him last year because he left Illini to be a “gunner on a bad team.” Never mind that team was really bad and he needed to shoot a lot. With two transfers (including a point guard) and a 4* freshman starting also (along with a transfer getting 28 minutes off the bench), Epps was only 4th on team in shots attempted. He hit 6 of 11 overall and 3-6 from 3. Only one game and it was against Lehigh, so we’ll see if it continues.
 
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OrangeBlue98
foby said:
This person obviously knows something about basketball. The other, not as much.
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To be fair, I do think Hawkins complains to the officials too much. I said as much a few times when he played for Illinois as well. I never like to see players or coaches consistently complain about calls. It's not a good look, and it distracts the team from focusing on what they can control. To his credit, I think Underwood has significantly improved in this area and saves his powder for when he feels it's genuinely warranted.
 
#88      
RabidDawgClassic
OrangeBlue98 said:
To be fair, I do think Hawkins complains to the officials too much. I said as much a few times when he played for Illinois as well. I never like to see players or coaches consistently complain about calls. It's not a good look, and it distracts the team from focusing on what they can control. To his credit, I think Underwood has significantly improved in this area and saves his powder for when he feels it's genuinely warranted.
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That’s the reason this specific GIF exists.

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#89      
Ryllini
EyeoftheIllini said:
I’ll be very interested to see how Epps does this season. Seemed to be some on here who really liked to hate on him last year because he left Illini to be a “gunner on a bad team.” Never mind that team was really bad and he needed to shoot a lot. With two transfers (including a point guard) and a 4* freshman starting also (along with a transfer getting 28 minutes off the bench), Epps was only 4th on team in shots attempted. He hit 6 of 11 overall and 3-6 from 3. Only one game and it was against Lehigh, so we’ll see if it continues.
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I like Epps alot. He is a bucket. Not much defense from him. I hope he has a fruitful career.
 
#90      
EyeoftheIllini
Was checking to see how former Beaver Tyler Bilodeau did in his first game at UCLA (led team in scoring with 18), and saw another familiar name — Skyy Clark. Apologies if mentioned already, but looks like he had an OK game. Only scored 3 pts (1-5; 1-3 from 3) in 20 minutes as a starter, but he had 7 assists (3 TOs) and a steal and blocked shot.
 
#91      
foby
OrangeBlue98 said:
To be fair, I do think Hawkins complains to the officials too much. I said as much a few times when he played for Illinois as well. I never like to see players or coaches consistently complain about calls. It's not a good look, and it distracts the team from focusing on what they can control. To his credit, I think Underwood has significantly improved in this area and saves his powder for when he feels it's genuinely warranted.
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It wasn't the complaining part I was talking about. More about his value to the team
 
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