Coaching Carousel (Football)

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Dan

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What happened to Walter's getting canned this week? I guessing that's not happening this year and Purdont gives him another year.
 
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Unless they really turn it around bringing him back after a 1-11 season would be a train wreck. They will lose a lot to the portal
Boiler fans are going to learn the full dark meaning of the words "not ideal". Honestly, the fans don't deserve that!

We've been there. That place sucks, and it's hard to escape from.
 
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Walters coming back next year is 75% dependent on his ability to hold onto his current recruits and add 7-8 decent preps to show his recruiting floor is still there.


The people hanging onto the salacious story components seemed to have forgotten there are lots of dirtbag coaches in this profession, it's either an open secret or publicly known, and they're still paid multiple millions because they win. If Walters can pick up a few wins or hold onto his recruiting, he'll have a chance at 2025.
 
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Shurmur didn't have a great record as Giants head coach, but the guy knows offense. As a rookie under him, Daniel Jones started 12 games and threw 24 TD passes. Then they fired Shurmur and he's never had more than 15, even in a full season.
 
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Walters coming back next year is 75% dependent on his ability to hold onto his current recruits and add 7-8 decent preps to show his recruiting floor is still there.


The people hanging onto the salacious story components seemed to have forgotten there are lots of dirtbag coaches in this profession, it's either an open secret or publicly known, and they're still paid multiple millions because they win. If Walters can pick up a few wins or hold onto his recruiting, he'll have a chance at 2025.
Fully agree that there are dirtbag coaches, just as there are many walks of life where people are operating under less than fully moral and ethical standards. But there was just too much smoke to think anything other than if Purdue could have legally stood on terminating Walters for cause based on his (alleged, but very likely) affair with a staffer, they would have done so. See - Tucker, Mel.

Athletic departments are a business. Financial considerations play a part in their decision making, and it is pretty obvious to me that they were checking to see if they could find a "terminate for cause" loophole to save the balance on the remainder of Walters' contract.
 
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Fully agree that there are dirtbag coaches, just as there are many walks of life where people are operating under less than fully moral and ethical standards. But there was just too much smoke to think anything other than if Purdue could have legally stood on terminating Walters for cause based on his (alleged, but very likely) affair with a staffer, they would have done so. See - Tucker, Mel.

Athletic departments are a business. Financial considerations play a part in their decision making, and it is pretty obvious to me that they were checking to see if they could find a "terminate for cause" loophole to save the balance on the remainder of Walters' contract.
and they still may be , but are just waiting for the season to get closer to ending .
 
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Feels like Rhett Lashlee has been around forever but he's still quite young. Gotta imagine the SEC powers will be sniffing around.
 
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Florida coming out and saying Napier will be back could be an early sign that teams don't have the normal budget for coach buyouts right now with the pending athlete payout starting next year and still scaling up NIL structure.
 
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Since I am a FIRM believer in 'continuity' in coaching staffs as a strong ingredient for long term success, it might be a bit of a silver lining that we aren't OVERLY good enough this year for anyone to come looking at our coaches to pilfer off...
 
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Florida coming out and saying Napier will be back could be an early sign that teams don't have the normal budget for coach buyouts right now with the pending athlete payout starting next year and still scaling up NIL structure.
It’s hard to ask for 5mil every year for the next 5 years for a buyout, when you also need 5 mil a year for 5 years to pay players.

Head Coaches salaries should seriously be decreasing with the new setup.
 
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It’s hard to ask for 5mil every year for the next 5 years for a buyout, when you also need 5 mil a year for 5 years to pay players.

Head Coaches salaries should seriously be decreasing with the new setup.
There's definitely something to that. The rise of coaching salaries has clearly been a result of those coaching being the one place you could (legally) allocate money to improve your team. Now you have to allocate of towards coaching and on-field (or court) talent. In professional leagues where that calculus has been in play for decades, star players make more than coaches.
 
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Head Coaches salaries should seriously be decreasing with the new setup.

It's a fun question considering how financially mismanaged athletic departments are and whether universities are going to weld real punishments if continued mismanagement occurs. My guess is head jobs are going to start at lower salaries to better fund the athlete side of the house, then skyrocket significantly if that coach shows early results.
 
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There's definitely something to that. The rise of coaching salaries has clearly been a result of those coaching being the one place you could (legally) allocate money to improve your team. Now you have to allocate of towards coaching and on-field (or court) talent. In professional leagues where that calculus has been in play for decades, star players make more than coaches.
There will still be some rare cases where the coach will still make an absolute truckload of money. However, those cases will be much fewer and farther between. The crazy-high salaries will only be for the people with the Saban or Smart pedigree, and I'd venture to say that it will take longer to get to that point as well.

If nothing else, this NIL era should hasten the end of what will forever be known as the "Mel Tucker contract". You just are not going to see unproven coaches get that type of contract now that players are being paid.

I point to the soccer world, where the only coaches who have received remarkably high salaries have been serial winners like Pep Guardiola and Juergen Klopp. They earn(ed) compensation well beyond the average coach, but they are very rare cases in elite professional soccer.
 
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I would think that salaries may still remain high, but buyout amounts will be much more realistic.
 
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