Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Looking forward to good things from Benedict Humberbatch.
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#606      
All I am hearing Indy say today is that Hawkins is basically gone no matter what. We have brought on nothing but 4’s this off season ( out side of Boswell) We need a 5 and a 2. If Hawkins comes back we will have a lot of 4’s not playing and transferring out next year.

We have a lot more work to do for this roster. 4 spots min to fill
Yup. And I would add, I'd pay up for quality at those two spots if it means sacrificing the 12th and 13th rides.
 
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Domask replacement.
The more I learn about humrichous the more I really like him. He the potential a better hybrid of both Domask and Goode.

Someone already posted this ( that is how I got it ) but give it a read. This kid is going (lord willing) be a stud for us.

 
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I think the big key is the NCAA transfer rules changing for grad transfers, which is what Coleman specifically references in his tweet.
All the angst on here about Coleman portaling (and people saying no chance) was before the NCAA approved the changes to their transfer rules that included that grad-transfers must be in the portal by 5/1 instead of being able to enter/transfer after the closing date.

To me, that's the key change in the last two weeks.

To be fair this was approved and known since last October. Borzello is misleading in his characterization.I trust this rule change is a factor in Coleman’s decision, just not sure it has an impact on the timing of him entering the portal now versus earlier in the window.

The Legislative Committee noted that notification-of-transfer deadlines of May 1 for fall and winter sports and July 1 for spring sports apply to graduate transfers transferring for the first time, and that beginning in 2024-25, graduate students seeking waivers for postgraduate eligibility will need to comply with those same deadlines.

 
#611      
Coleman wants to stay in the draft - that is what he is playing for. But if his health or feedback he receives pushes him back to CBB, what do we need to appease to him to come back? Outside the obvious being money of course? A good 5 man and star wing...That's it?...Or just good 5 man?...Or more...who knows. This pretty mysterious imo
 
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Some nice Ben H stats--- #1 scorer on Evansville #2 rebounder #3 assists. He is used to being the man just like Marcus Domask at SIU. 6'9" 220 - nice size. Probably can defend in post if necessary along with Johnson and Booth.

By contrast Boswell 5th leading scorer AZ 10 ppg, White 4th leading scorer 12 ppg (Louisville had 5 guys between 10 and 13 ppg), Booth 5th leading scorer ND 6 ppg Davis 3rd leading scorer Mercer 9 ppg

Add in Ty, DGL and two freshman and we are up to 9 players. We only had 11 scholarship players last year. Moretti was 11th in minutes played 6 mpg. If Brad can bring in a backup center and a backup PG I think we are good. A star wing would be awesome but even without a big dog I think we have the core of a pretty good team. Certainly comparable 2022 with Coleman, RJ Luke returning and adds Mayer, TSJ, Dain, Skyy Sencire Ty. That team made NCAA and finished 5th in B10.


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No, he needs more than that. We NEED a scoring wing that's a bonafide bucket getter. We'll never replace TJ, but it's a critical position. We also need a rim protector....a legit 5. We're not good with two backups. We have a lot of complimentary pieces to what needs to be a star.
 
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Duuude, don't do that to yourself! True or not. You don't want people dialing down into the reality of your connections. Maintain your socially (& IL program) acceptable distance, lol.
 
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While I understand the hand wringing over needing a 7 footer, look at what Houston did this season. There wasn't a player over 6'-8" that got meaningful playing time for them this season. I'm hopeful we land a seasoned, athletic big like Hawkins (6'-10"+) to compliment Morez and Booth, but I trust BU and company to build a roster and style of play around that roster.

For what it's worth, I think it's just a very vocal minority of posters that think the sky is falling.
I agree with you, but this is one of things I hate about basketball which is the height nonsense on these team rosters. Hawkins measured at 6’8”. Does that mean Houston’s 6’8” players are really 6’6”?

Edit: For example, they only added 0.5” to TSJs height on fightingillini.com, but 1.5” to Hawkins.
 
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I agree with you, but this is one of things I hate about basketball which is the height nonsense on these team rosters. Hawkins measured at 6’8”. Does that mean Houston’s 6’8” players are really 6’6”?
We got punished in the paint in a LOT of games with Coleman getting the brunt of that punishment. Neither size, nor physicality are nonsense. They're a requirement, especially with some of the teams we'll see this year.
 
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I agree with you, but this is one of things I hate about basketball which is the height nonsense on these team rosters. Hawkins measured at 6’8”. Does that mean Houston’s 6’8” players are really 6’6”?

Edit: For example, they only added 0.5” to TSJs height on fightingillini.com, but 1.5” to Hawkins.
Yeah it is pretty annoying how much it varies but they tend to add an inch or two to a lot of guys. All the NBA combine stuff is in shoes. Here is some stuff from last year.

Coleman Hawkins measured in at 6'8.5 at the NBA combine and has been listed at 6'10.

Ryan Kalkbrenner measured in at 7'0.75 and is listed at 7'0.

Grant Nelson measured in at 6'10 and is listed at 6'10.

TSJ measured in at 6'5.5 and was listed at 6'6 while a bunch of other guys that measured in at the same height were listed at 6'7(Jalen Wilson was listed at 6'8).

Jarace Walker was 6'6.5 and listed at 6'8 for Houston.

You can look up the combine results from last year and compare them to what they're listed at but some guys are right on the dot while others get anywhere up to 2.5 extra inches.

I don't know if Illinois needs a 7 footer but they need a legitimate big guy with Ballo at IU and Goldin at Michigan.

Also, for the listed heights I was going by CBB reference. I've seen heights vary between sites and Nelson gets listed 6'11 on Alabama's page.
 
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