IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
The attorneys must have spoken faster than he could tweet. I'm guessing that means a verdict today unless they really wrestle over something
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I think Mitch has to leave the courtroom in order to use his phone, so his live tweets aren't actually in real-time.
OrangeBlue98
- Des Moines, IA
That makes more sense. Like I said, everything the defense team has done has seemed to be on point-especially compared to the prosecution’s attempt at establishing a case. I just hope there isn’t a juror sitting there thinking, “Now why did the defense attorney go nuclear when the case seems so clear-cut to acquit?”
Honestly, if what Gilfillan has live-tweeted is close to accurate, I wouldn’t even need the closing arguments.
I think that statement plus the "she could have kicked him in the balls" is attempting to imply that she wasn't assaulted period, not that she was assaulted by someone who isn't TSJ.
Could be a winning tactic, but I get why it seems cringe inducing depending on the tone/context.
Could be a winning tactic, but I get why it seems cringe inducing depending on the tone/context.
well of course it doesn't prove anything, and the things you suggest are of course possible explanations for the other male DNA. But another possible explanation is that a different man assaulted her, so it does seem relevant to say that the investigation should have included other men as well, besides just TSJ.
Also, just throwing this out there, it's easy to say the Defense shouldn't say this or that before a verdict or if he's found Not Guilty, but if he happens to be found Guilty, we'd have wished they'd done more.
That is everything. My elderly, maiden aunt was attacked. I would have been more than willing to "visit" her attacker with my Dad and Uncle.
That said I would hate if my wife, daughter, mother, daughter in law, sister, sister in laws and nieces were afraid to step forward because of the backlash they would face.
Life is hard. Life is unfair.
That said I would hate if my wife, daughter, mother, daughter in law, sister, sister in laws and nieces were afraid to step forward because of the backlash they would face.
Life is hard. Life is unfair.
sacraig
- The desert
Technically the defense's case is that they need a minimum of one dissenter on the jury, so their goal is to poke holes in the prosecution's case from as many directions as they can to get at least one member of the jury to have a reasonable doubt. A defense attorney doesn't need a credible counter-narrative; they just need to convince a jury that the prosecution's narrative isn't correct.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
I don’t know. Someone said if you want to convict someone of rape, show the jury a rapist. Maybe to acquit, you have to not only show the jury a “not rapist” (which doesn’t really describe anything) but also an unreliable defendant.
Is twitter the only place we will find out what the Jury decides? I assume no live stream of the verdict reading?
BillyBob1
- Champaign
If you are a professional making a presentation, you don’t make multiple mistakes on a presentation. You read it over and over an have another person review it.
I agree with you. There is a difference in poking holes in a story and questioning what she said to see if the story makes sense. Without physical evidence her story is the case
It would be wrong to say she was underage wearing the wrong outfit and knew the bar history. That would be blaming the victim.
I would say the prosecution went after TSJ harder By saying he is a star he gets what he wants. Even though the accuser had no idea who he was
It would be wrong to say she was underage wearing the wrong outfit and knew the bar history. That would be blaming the victim.
I would say the prosecution went after TSJ harder By saying he is a star he gets what he wants. Even though the accuser had no idea who he was
I think this appeal could go both ways to a jury. If this is as impassioned and emotional of a closing as it reads in text it could also play this guy really believes TSJ did not do this and is fighting tooth and nail for him.
I don’t love it, but if I’m in TSJ’s shoes now wouldn’t be the time I’d want him to start pulling his punches. With no physical evidence, the only way the state wins the case is if the jury believes the accuser more than anything else they’ve heard, including the lack of physical evidence.
LadyLoyalty
- Indian Wells, CA
I really wish people would stop referring to her as “the victim”. She’s an ALLEGED victim and her story has more holes than our defense against UConn (too soon?).
Terrence Shannon Junior is the only real victim here.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Sick to my stomach refreshing this thread … literally cannot even imagine how TSJ feels.
illinihawk16
- Chicago
That was my guess. Probably has a notepad he takes notes in and then tweets out during breaks in the trial.
I am on the side that the defense attorney is there for the defense of TSJ. Unfortunately, the prosecution went after him, (and would have gone further, if there had been any evidence). I think it is right to question the sincerity and honesty of an accuser that if was believed and correct could send a man to prison for many years. I applaud the defense attorney's and I think the closing argument was spot on. He is going this far in the argument to not get just a hung jury but also to get a not guilty verdict.
Laziness typing on my phone
Dan
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As we wait, let's start over with a new thread-
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Unless I missed it, or it wasn't tweeted, I am surprised when he stated "no eyewitnesses, including the accuser", why he didn't follow up with but there were 4 eyewitnesses, plus the accused that stated that he never did anything like this.
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