I live IN St. Louis and the blackout rules are still stupid. Surprise surprise, I can't go to every game. But I would happily watch most games and their accompanying commercials.
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Ryllini
- Lombard
The rules are just detrimental to local teams as far as fandom goes. Thankfully I’m in Chicagoland and get the Birds through MLB extra innings. However, I now need another paid app for the Bulls or if my wife wants to watch the Sox. I’m in the catbird seat as far as my Cardinals watching, but being a local Bulls fan, I guess I just become a fan of the NBA, which I already was and less of a dedicated must see as much Bulls as my marriage will allow.
I've said it before. I am 4 hours away. I never hop on over and watch a game in person. It takes logistics. A hotel room. If it is a work day then scheduled time off. MLB is just plan stupid in the way of dealing with tv viewership.
I was just thinking, I care less about what happens in baseball today than ever before. I haven't looked at the WS. I was going to go to a StL game in Detroit. My son lives in the area and it was a way to go to another ballpark. The game was rained out and I gave my son the tickets so he and his wife could go to a game. It wasn't going to be the make up game. I didn't have time for it. Detroit has a stupid way for using the tickets. They had to walk to to the Will Call booth and see if there were seats available. No way to pre-plan. Get a sitter for the kids or anything. Just show up and they will let you know if you can watch the game or not.
Thought you Cards might find this interesting.
They won't re-sign Lynn but I'd guess they pick up Gibson's option because he's cheap for what he is. The idea is that if the team isn't contending you can at trade him at the deadline for decent return.
I think Buehler is likely to opt for a one-year deal and try and rehabilitate his value for a big payday next offseason. Would be great if we could get him, but wouldn't be surprised if he re-signed with the Dodgers.
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Maybe the cardinals can sign him next
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
How Cardinals' 1st moves of offseason begin payroll pruning, fit pledge to 'reset' with youth
Within hours of the hot stove sparking, the Cardinals declined options on three veterans and saw more than $50 million melt off the payroll before lunchtime.
Acquire both and have Will Smith pitch to Will Smith to close out game 7 of the 2025 World Series.
Maybe the cardinals can sign him next
Was surprised they declined the option on Gibson. Given that move I expect that if there are good offers on the table for any of Gray, Contreras, or Arenado, they will be gone.How Cardinals' 1st moves of offseason begin payroll pruning, fit pledge to 'reset' with youth
Within hours of the hot stove sparking, the Cardinals declined options on three veterans and saw more than $50 million melt off the payroll before lunchtime.www.stltoday.com
IlliniFan85
- Colorado Springs, CO
Probably Helsley too.
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That one hurts. but if the team is no good, his talent goes to waste anyway. It’s like peeling an onion. Every layer hurts. Losing some of these guys will gut the team. It’s too bad Mo is at the core. The cardinals won’t peel him.
Looks like this type of move is where we're going to get our innings with our most dependable innings-eater from last season gone:
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Cardinals Claim Roddery Muñoz
The Cardinals announced that they have claimed right-hander Roddery Muñoz from the Marlins. The Fish evidently put him on waivers …
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No QO for Goldschmidt - not really a surprise but the idea had been floated that maybe the Cards would want the comp pick, and would be willing to take on the salary for one year (or half a year if they traded at the deadline) in the event he accepted, especially since there are no amazing in-house options for 1B. Somewhat telling the Cards were unwilling to risk him accepting the QO.
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- Paducah, Ky
Cardinals prospect Thomas Saggese continues hitting for Desert Dogs: Fall League Report
In two games on Tuesday, Cardinals prospect Thomas Saggese collected two hits to keep his fall league batting average above .400.
Cardinals sign Packy Naughton to 2-year, minor league deal, complete other roster moves
Naughton is one of a handful of minor-league players Cardinals re-signed to maintain their depth. Plus: Club finalizes roster move with lefty Drew Rom.
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Yeah. at $21 million for 2025 why would they want to? He would have certainly accepted it. He got $26 mil last year so it is not much of a decrease all things considered.
1. He may not have. He's in the twilight of his career, does he really want to spend another year at a club that has said it's not competing? If he opts not to, that's valuable draft pick compensation, which the Cards need to maximize.
2. They've already shed a ton of salary, and as you said he made more than that last season, so even with that $21 million they come out ahead.
3. There are no 1B on the roster anyway, just guys like Burly, Walker, Gorman, who would be projects at the position. It's not like they'd really blocking anyone who is primed to take over. And the QO deal doesn't come with a trade clause so you could always flip him for some kind of prospect return.
I get the decision, but it definitely points to a longer rebuild than a, "maybe we take a year off and then are right back in it in 2026 or 2027" situation.
So what do you think another team will offer Goldy? I'm thinking it will be closer to $15-18 mil. According to Spotrac only 4 1B will earn more than $15 next year. Vlad Jr, Harper, Freeman and Matt Olson bring up the rear at $22 mil. #5 is Max Muncy at $14.5 mil who is really 3B.
There are other FA out there so I checked 2024. Only 9 players got $15 mil or more this year.
A winner organization or not, odds are Goldy would take the $21 and retire a Redbird. I looked at last year's playoff teams a few of them could use a 1B. I saw Pete Alonso on every one of the wish lists. Christian Walker was on most of them too. Goldschmidt wasn't on any of them. Granted Pete can't play for everyone and this list was just a writer's compilation. Point is, Paul isn't going to be in great demand. Both Alonso and Walker received QO. Of the free agent 1B Goldy is towards the top but he is 37. Carlos Santana 39. Justin Turner 40 and Donovan Solano 37 are the other top players. I think we will see teams dip into their minor leagues to look for a new first baseman. Those that don't will be looking to catch lighting in a bottle for a year or two at a discounted price.
They're not really attempting to compete, or at least not attempting to compete with dollars. So there's really no reason to spend that $21MM on Goldschmidt when it's a) only for 1 year, the year you're not really competing or b) could be spent in ways to make your team better in 2026, like paying down a contract to trade (Gray, Contreras, Arenado).
I don't actually think they trade any of those 3 guys (Arenado is probably the most likely), but even ignoring the payroll/competing context, Goldschmidt isn't worth a 1 year $21MM contract. He's only projecting for 1.7 wins and underperformed even that this year - pretty sure he's cooked. He'll get a job somewhere, but it'll be like $20MM for 2 years and an option, or something along those lines.
Pretty sure they'll be done with the "Jordan Walker is an OF" experiment. He'll be DH/ corner infield full time. So he'll need the at bats
It's not about his value, or competing, it's about getting draft pick compensation or prospects in return. Again, I see why they did it this way, but also understanding you need picks amd prospects to replenish the farm with what they're trying to do, a QO was a potential avenue to do it.
If they can't risk paying Goldy for half a season (they'd surely trade him at the deadline) to try and get a draft pick or some prospects, why wouldn't they trade Arenado/Contreras/Gray (particularly as the latter two have heavily backloaded deals)? That's much bigger potential savings.
If he's not an OF, Walker is probably a DH. I don't think there's much confidence he can handle 3B or 1B, and from what I've heard on Goold's podcast, people expect Burly and Gorman to see time at 1st than Walker.
IlliniFan85
- Colorado Springs, CO
Turns out there is
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And the deal just keeps getting worse
Cardinals say Contreras moving full time to 1B
Cardinals slugger Willson Contreras is making a permanent move to first base, with the goal partly being to prolong his career.
I would be fine with that move if we were contending, but what is the point if we aren't competing? He's arguably our most valuable trade piece at this point.Turns out there is
And the deal just keeps getting worse
Cardinals say Contreras moving full time to 1B
Cardinals slugger Willson Contreras is making a permanent move to first base, with the goal partly being to prolong his career.