Pregame: Illinois vs Ottawa (Exhibition), Friday, October 20th, 8:00pm CT, B1G+
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No hate for Domask here. I hope Domask does great. Luke simply has slightly better numbers than Domask last season (at least, %-wise and per min on some things), and the only reason Luke's simplest numbers like PT and PPG don't look considerably better was because he broke his foot. I just don't think that this injury should be the main reason he doesn't start.
Another less controversial way to but it is that both of these guys are very important in this 3 position for the Illini (mostly as a shooter) and both deserve to play a lot, so it hardly matters who starts. That's true, but it's kind of boring. So, I tried to stir the pot with this argument that maybe Luke should start. Obviously, we're waiting for real basketball action. I hope they all do great. It will be a cakewalk on Friday, but a real test a week later.
I went and watched a bunch of SIU games before settling on him in both lineups. The main reason for Domask over Goode is ball handling, passing, and rebounding. Have you watched both closely? You can’t post Goode on a low block and have him pass out of it or take his defender to the hoop, that’s not his game. Goode is a catch and shoot guy with limited attributes elsewhere. Not to say he’s not valuable, he is, but Domask gives you more in other areas that make the team more dynamic than with Goode imo.
What’s nice is they both can shoot and have some size, so you can somewhat interchange them, but for me, Domask has more traits (mainly ball handling and passing) that blend well with the starting lineup I presented.
But hey, if Goode outperforms him, then I’m good with Goode! Best 5 should start. Excited for the season to begin
3 point girl
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Look at that BU hair-very nice!
Agree with you Domask is more of a playmaker. However, I would still start Goode over Domask to balance out playmaking between the first and second units. But Domask would still get more minutes and would be on the floor for closing time. Just MHO.I went and watched a bunch of SIU games before settling on him in both lineups. The main reason for Domask over Goode is ball handling, passing, and rebounding. Have you watched both closely? You can’t post Goode on a low block and have him pass out of it or take his defender to the hoop, that’s not his game. Goode is a catch and shoot guy with limited attributes elsewhere. Not to say he’s not valuable, he is, but Domask gives you more in other areas that make the team more dynamic than with Goode imo.
What’s nice is they both can shoot and have some size, so you can somewhat interchange them, but for me, Domask has more traits (mainly ball handling and passing) that blend well with the starting lineup I presented.
But hey, if Goode outperforms him, then I’m good with Goode! Best 5 should start. Excited for the season to begin
But if a Ty/TJ/Domask/Quincy/Coleman lineup out scores opponents by an insane amount per 100 possessions, can see an argument for running that lineup out there as much as possible.
Will be curious to see how effective various lineups are and what BU decides.
blackdog
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I think idea of first/second units gets really over talked about in college sports and its really more of a thing in the NBA where the games are longer and you can generally trust most of the guys on the bench to at least not hurt the team. Coaches are good at staggering minutes and subs in a way that they almost always have a couple starters on the floor at any given time and BU has shown he is willing to make early subs to do that. For example maybe Domask only plays the first 4-5 minutes and subs out at the first media timeout so that by the time TSJ needs a breather he is fresh and ready to take over for that short stretch.
drsmitty74
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Don't know where else to ask this, but is anyone having issues getting the B1G+ website to come up? I am trying to create an account but keep getting errors when I try to open the website.
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In regards to the Goode Domask discussion, I wonder if BU might start Goode initially as a reward for his loyalty to the program (and the fact, that he is good enough to start) and then maybe later start Domask if that is so warranted. Remember last year, I think there were not many people who thought Goode would start (and technically he didn't since he was injured in the secret scrimmage game) but he, BU, said he was going to start him had the injury not occurred.
Everything that is coming out of practice reports is Domask is our no doubt second or third best player and it isn't close. Game 1, Domask is going to be in the starting line up
drsmitty74
- Rochester
If this works for others, I guess it's on my end. This errors out and get this screen...
Homecoming 2019
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The rebounding in that lineup should be incredible
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Bigtex
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worked for me
DB11Headband
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Ding ding ding
Yep. Dain, Luke, Sencire, DGL, Hansberry, and Harmon will all also play crucial roles in one way or another. Nice to have all that depth. I think Nico has really improved as well
Been saying this is my ideal lineup all off-season. Love the switchy fast 5-out lineups. Also think Dain can be a great spark as a sixth man.
I’d assumed it would end up being Dain in for Guerrier just because of how much Brad has been hyping Dain up, but I hope we rock with Guerrier-Coleman as the frontcourt.
DB11Headband
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Dain probably going to end up playing more than Quincy but need “capable” shooters surrounding Ty to start games.
Yeah, you make good points above, although the rebounds per min player were higher for the 1-inch taller Goode, than Domask, based on last season's stats.I went and watched a bunch of SIU games before settling on him in both lineups. The main reason for Domask over Goode is ball handling, passing, and rebounding. Have you watched both closely? You can’t post Goode on a low block and have him pass out of it or take his defender to the hoop, that’s not his game. Goode is a catch and shoot guy with limited attributes elsewhere. Not to say he’s not valuable, he is, but Domask gives you more in other areas that make the team more dynamic than with Goode imo.
What’s nice is they both can shoot and have some size, so you can somewhat interchange them, but for me, Domask has more traits (mainly ball handling and passing) that blend well with the starting lineup I presented.
But hey, if Goode outperforms him, then I’m good with Goode! Best 5 should start. Excited for the season to begin
I've seen some extended highlights for Domask from last season, but one doesn't see many missed shots and TOs (almost none) among those (since they are rare highlights), so I look forward to seeing more of Domask's play. I expect you are correct on the ball handling and passing, but these are harder to measure with the normal stats. Regarding that, we have TOs per min played (I think in Domask's favor, but I need to double check) and assists per min played (definitely in Domask's favor, since we checked that here before) and steals per min played (again in Domask's favor, from our prior checks). So, Domask does seem better in terms of ball handing and passing in those ways. My guess is also that Domask is a little quicker than Goode, although both guys are nothing like an attacking TSJ or SH.
I'm interested to see how effective Domask is in the low block. It seems neither guy (neither Domask nor Goode) is going to be great against BT competition in the low post. They just aren't big enough to dominate there, unless we go small, and CH and another Illini forward draw at BT opponent's 4 and 5 away from the basket. So, no, I don't see Domask scoring a lot in the low post (except on some offensive rebounds). Instead, the easiest way for Domask to rack up points is great shooting and great driving or cutting and resulting layups, pullups, bank shot's, etc. (including transition baskets), where he attacks the basket (while facing the basket) and sometimes gets fouled and makes his FTs. If that wasn't (mostly) his offensive game at SIU, then he must adjust and make this (mostly) his offensive game at IL, where he's likely to face more talented big men than in the MVC.
I'm excited too. Yeah, it looks like Underwood is being smart about keeping everyone up in the air on starting lineups and who plays the most. In truth, starting doesn't matter that much, but minutes played in important games in who is playing in the last 5 mins of close games matters a ton. It wins and loses games, so we might see it where is really counts against Marquette. That game will be hugely important for IL, and not an easy win for us. But I sure hope we can do it!
Put Harmon in for Rodgers and that would be the oldest lineup we could throw out there. Lots of experience, if you squint hard enough might be able to see a sweet 16 lineup in there.
Do you think he should tell the camera/internet/world what we're going to run?
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