That was his best game yet, but doing fairly well in exhibitions thus far — improving stats each game. Overall in 4 games he’s 13.5 ppg and 7.3 rpg in 20.3 mpg. But in his last 2 those numbers go up to 19.0 ppg and 8.5 rpg in 20.5 mpg. His plus/minus is only +4 but that’s because of a -15 in a game they lost by 25. Interestingly, he has only 5 blocks thus far — the same number as he has assists.
This thread is going to be full of frustration at the lack of playing time these two gentlemen are getting over the next couple of months, unfortunately.Ex-Illini on Ex-Illini mugging will be in full display tonight.
Fixed that for you.God the Bulls are a hot mess.
100%. I wonder if Ayo eventually gets traded. He has plenty trade value as a good rotation piece on a playoff squad, and even if they manage to find a suitor for Lavine, there's still a bit of a logjam there. I know the Bulls like that he's a hometown guy, but at a certain point the cold hard math of the situation has to trump that, right?This thread is going to be full of frustration at the lack of playing time these two gentlemen are getting over the next couple of months, unfortunately.
In the T'Wolves case because the trade for Donte Divincenzo genuinely makes them a better balanced team.
In the Bulls case because the roster is a catastrophically mismanaged mess in which Zach Lavine absolutely has to play alpha dog minutes for trade value purposes. Plus Giddey, plus Coby White, plus whatever Lonzo Ball can provide, it's obvious who the odd man out here is.
The team will play better with Ayo on the floor, but for a tanking team that's bad.
God the Bulls are a mess.
What is your definition of “plenty trade value”?100%. I wonder if Ayo eventually gets traded. He has plenty trade value as a good rotation piece on a playoff squad, and even if they manage to find a suitor for Lavine, there's still a bit of a logjam there. I know the Bulls like that he's a hometown guy, but at a certain point the cold hard math of the situation has to trump that, right?
Honestly anything that helps them stockpile assets for the future. Could be a favorable 1st round pick swap. Could be a few 2nd round picks that could be packaged for a bigger deal down the line. The fact is, there aren't a lot of players on the roster who could immediately help a contender, and even fewer on team friendly deals.What is your definition of “plenty trade value”?
He certainly has trade value — not so sure about “plenty of.” Considering that Bulls first rounder should be relatively high for next couple of years, not so sure they could get a favorable swap of firsts. Could certainly get a second rounder. I don’t follow NBA trades enough to know if they could get 2. But won’t be a surprise if they trade him. Nice to have him in the Bulls, but relocation to a new trade is probably best for his career.Honestly anything that helps them stockpile assets for the future. Could be a favorable 1st round pick swap. Could be a few 2nd round picks that could be packaged for a bigger deal down the line. The fact is, there aren't a lot of players on the roster who could immediately help a contender, and even fewer on team friendly deals.
Also worth noting that with that favorable deal, Ayo is unlikely to be re-signed when his contract is up as he will be in line for a large raise. And the Bulls are unlikely to compete in the time he is still under contract.
One suggestion I saw was for a swap of firsts with the Bucks for their 2031 pick. The idea is that with the current contracts the Bucks have, there's a decent chance Giannis would go elsewhere and the Bucks would go into rebuild mode before that, and that pick could be pretty valuable. I also don't know NBA trades well enough to know if that's a good idea or not, but it does seem like his trade value is at a high right now.He certainly has trade value — not so sure about “plenty of.” Considering that Bulls first rounder should be relatively high for next couple of years, not so sure they could get a favorable swap of firsts. Could certainly get a second rounder. I don’t follow NBA trades enough to know if they could get 2. But won’t be a surprise if they trade him. Nice to have him in the Bulls, but relocation to a new trade is probably best for his career.
Didn’t help himself much tonight. Think he had 9 points 3-10; 0-4 from 3) in 31 minutes. He did have 5 or 6 of both rebounds and assists. Hopefully he played some good D.Wolves are too deep and talented. I don’t see TJ getting more than a few minutes per game with a number of “DNP’s” mixed in as well. Thats the tough part of going to a contending team.