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IlliniFaninHoosierLand

IlliniFaninHoosierLand
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ChiefGritty said:
No other team would have offered him an AAV like that. He isn't a difference making player now and despite his youth I don't believe in his growth potential at all.

The Bulls had the patience to allow Coby White to twist in the wind looking for other offers and locked him down to an extremely team-friendly deal, the single best asset the Bulls currently possess.

But this front office drafted PWill, so they are deluding themselves into believing he has market value that he emphatically does not.

5/90 isn't crippling at all in the current market, it's nothing to overreact about, but it's redolent of the way this administration constantly mis-values its own players.

In related news:
www.bleachernation.com

REPORT: Bulls Have Tried to Attach a First-Round Pick to Trade Zach LaVine

The Chicago Bulls' desire to trade Zach LaVine has seeming reached an all-time high.
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Did you see it mentioned in the link I posted that with the spike in the salary cap because of the new TV deal money, his salary won't be that much more than the midlevel exception?
 
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ChiIllini75

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Go back and look at the last big spike about 10 years ago at the deals guys like Tyler Johnson were getting. Same logic was being used, that once the cap went up it wouldn't look bad. Guess what, too much money for an average/bad asset is still bad. PWill isn't going to cripple the Bulls if for no other reason than they don't appear capable of building anything worth enough that it can be crippled.
 
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ChiefGritty

ChiefGritty
Chicago, IL
ChiefGritty
IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Did you see it mentioned in the link I posted that with the spike in the salary cap because of the new TV deal money, his salary won't be that much more than the midlevel exception?
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No one else would have given him this deal, that's the point. The difference between this and the deal the Bulls could have gotten isn't any earth-shattering thing, the difference between 5/90 and 4/48 doesn't look that dramatic on a cap sheet especially with the spike coming, but I repeat: treating Patrick Williams as someone you need to meet the demands of in order to stop him from looking around as an RFA is a clear demonstration of the Bulls not understanding the market value of their players and THAT is a broader issue that is crippling the team.
 
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ChiefGritty

ChiefGritty
Chicago, IL
ChiefGritty
Loyalillini10 said:
I am a little sad about this. I love Andre Drummond.

This also begs the question, who are they bringing in. Currently, Vooch is the Bulls's only center.
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There are some younger bigs in the free agent market they'll be looking at. I also think they're a bit intrigued by Adama Sanogo, though he's undersized for a C.

And we'll see if there's actually any market for Vooch. LaVine is comprehensively untradeable as things stand and will need to put up numbers for a garbage team in order to rehabilitate his value somewhat to even get someone to take him for nothing. Vooch is a lot cheaper, I have more hope there.

It's a shame the trading team can't retain salary in the NBA like they can in the NHL, that would really improve the value of Vooch and LaVine as assets. I can imagine the league rightly fears that as tanking jet fuel though.
 
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ChiIllini75

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Anything they can do to let Vooch go they should. One good shooting season and a bunch of mediocre ones in his career. TS% of 52 is not gonna get it done.

He's the unhoused mans Brook Lopez on offense and unplayable on D, what's not to like rest of the NBA!
 
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ChiefGritty

ChiefGritty
Chicago, IL
ChiefGritty
ChiIllini75 said:
Anything they can do to let Vooch go they should. One good shooting season and a bunch of mediocre ones in his career. TS% of 52 is not gonna get it done.

He's the unhoused mans Brook Lopez on offense and unplayable on D, what's not to like rest of the NBA!
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He's so freaking talented and such a sulky loser. He and LaVine are two peas in a pod. There's a reason every team either of those guys have ever been on has disappointed.