Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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What hasn't been discussed (here) is why the reclassifying now? So late in the process, after rosters are mostly set, and why would that give JF a better opportunity than being a 25 at Illinois? Just seems like lots of desperation judgements when there didn't have to be. Who has money, space and minutes now, given his weight, size and experience?
 
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OK I have this figured out now...If we lose Boswell next week, then we didn't really want him and we move to Top 3 in the nation...Thanks.
 
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Regardless of if he's '24 or '25...all this talk about Jasper -

guess this means we're the frontrunner...? Or at least one of...?

I know we all believe Pope probably ain't the right man for KY...but the fact that we're going toe to toe with, and might even be ahead of KENTUCKY in a battle for a top 10 player who lives 20 min. away from their campus, whose father played there, and has been around the program all his life...just speaks volumes...
 
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Regardless of if he's '24 or '25...all this talk about Jasper -

guess this means we're the frontrunner...? Or at least one of...?

I know we all believe Pope probably ain't the right man for KY...but the fact that we're going toe to toe with, and might even be ahead of KENTUCKY in a battle for a top 10 player who lives 20 min. away from their campus, whose father played there, and has been around the program all his life...just speaks volumes...
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What hasn't been discussed (here) is why the reclassifying now? So late in the process, after rosters are mostly set, and why would that give JF a better opportunity than being a 25 at Illinois? Just seems like lots of desperation judgements when there didn't have to be. Who has money, space and minutes now, given his weight, size and experience?
Desperation is a good word. Some teams are probably getting desperate for upside. Jeremy has it. He was just on Team USA. I would imagine that raised his profile for boosters. NIL is only limited to what you can talk someone in to.
 
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Regardless of if he's '24 or '25...all this talk about Jasper -

guess this means we're the frontrunner...? Or at least one of...?

I know we all believe Pope probably ain't the right man for KY...but the fact that we're going toe to toe with, and might even be ahead of KENTUCKY in a battle for a top 10 player who lives 20 min. away from their campus, whose father played there, and has been around the program all his life...just speaks volumes...

Kentucky is 3rd at best for Jasper as it stands today ... And may even be 5th if it weren't for the hometown kid thing ...

He and family were not impressed with Pope on the visit ...
 
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Desperation is a good word. Some teams are probably getting desperate for upside. Jeremy has it. He was just on Team USA. I would imagine that raised his profile for boosters. NIL is only limited to what you can talk someone in to.

He barely got off the bench for Team USA ...

I can just give a comparison but his number they are wanting NIL wise isn't that far off from Kasparas ...
 
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Desperation is a good word. Some teams are probably getting desperate for upside. Jeremy has it. He was just on Team USA. I would imagine that raised his profile for boosters. NIL is only limited to what you can talk someone in to.
I mean ya, but he didn't really show out on Team USA, in fact, the opposite. He got limited playing time and didn't put up great numbers in the time had. Teams that are desperate are not going to have our NIL if he was willing to be patient and stay a 25.
 
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LOL, I glanced at this board earlier today and could have placed a fancy #3 gif. I thought, it may be a bit boring for a while........

Then come back and Fears is gone and we aren't losing our minds too much.

It may be delusions of grandeur, and I'll choose we are going to be great for the foreseeable future.
 
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He barely got off the bench for Team USA ...

I can just give a comparison but his number they are wanting NIL wise isn't that far off from Kasparas ...
He looked a cut below the other backcourt options on that team for. JJ was much more effective and would be 100% more ready to play this year than JF. I like Fears long term, but his shooting looked shaky and his defense was very gamble heavy at this point.

The D reminded me of the early Underwood teams here, lots of turnovers forced and lots of scrambling to contain free drivers when no turnover came.
 
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He barely got off the bench for Team USA ...

I can just give a comparison but his number they are wanting NIL wise isn't that far off from Kasparas ...
It’s his shooting and strength that are deficient, he has to work on his game. What was his three point shooting percentage in the tournament?

His shooting and strength will improve but that’s what he could have worked on with the best coaches and facilities in college basketball here at Champaign. He needs to come back, get serious about it and work!
 
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Reclassifying may become more common than it used with NIL the way it is today. It is going to be hard to talk a upper echelon player and their family to have a senior year in high school when they could put in some extra work and graduate as a junior and make hundreds of thousands, if not, millions of dollars a year early.
 
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He looked a cut below the other backcourt options on that team for. JJ was much more effective and would be 100% more ready to play this year than JF. I like Fears long term, but his shooting looked shaky and his defense was very gamble heavy at this point.

The D reminded me of the early Underwood teams here, lots of turnovers forced and lots of scrambling to contain free drivers when no turnover came.

He's a small guard ... 6'2 in shoes ...

His shooting from deep has really, really fallen off this spring (20%) ... Think he's like 40% from the field ...

He doesn't like to play defense and he's not big enough right now to play defense against HM guards ... Especially these COVID year guys ...

And so far this spring/summer he's averaged more turnovers than assists ...

Now - I still think the kid can be a good player but none of those numbers scream I'm ready for HM basketball right now ... And they definitely don't scream anywhere near the asking price NIL wise ...

They scream to me he needs another year of development at the HS level and then more development once he gets into college ... Probably a multi year guy ...

But that's just my 2 cents ... 🤷‍♂️
 
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