Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Mr. Tibbs

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It does bring back the theoretical debate Indy started a couple of days ago about do we want:
A) Watkins - best player in the portal and gives us the best path to win now
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B) Lathon + another player- if that is Kaparas/Riley - which would give us a proven SG plus a 17 y.o. Developmental guy with huge upside

In reality it’s likely not our choice (Watkins will have choices if he comes back to college) but in this scenario path B is a lot more appealing than I was thinking originally

We are already setting ourselves up well for 2025 when Fears comes in but in this portal era, planning too far ahead is a fools game given anyone can leave any given year - so I would still prefer Watkins but if we can get Lathon plus one of the international guys that would be a great way to finish off the class too
you plan your roster to win as fast as you can . nfw can you rely on an 18 or 19 year old to stick with a decision 12-18 months out
 
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It does bring back the theoretical debate Indy started a couple of days ago about do we want:
A) Watkins - best player in the portal and gives us the best path to win now
or
B) Lathon + another player- if that is Kaparas/Riley - which would give us a proven SG plus a 17 y.o. Developmental guy with huge upside

In reality it’s likely not our choice (Watkins will have choices if he comes back to college) but in this scenario path B is a lot more appealing than I was thinking originally
So my uneducated guess is that we are probably out on Watkins, now, based on how I read Indy’s post. I take “heading overseas again” to mean another actual trip, and it seems very unlikely to me that Brad and/or other staff would make a second trip over without strong confidence in landing someone (who seems to be the “primary target”). And if we land either of the overseas targets that have been mentioned, then it would effectively rule out Watkins.

I’m interested to see how it plays out.
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
I was just thinking of the scenario where Riley reclasses to ‘24 and we take one transfer and one international player - we likely don’t want to take three more in ‘24 nor would we have the NIL for it
at some point, and we may be there already, we run outta playing time for more players
 
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IANAL, but the answer is no
Well, the athletic department can't do a one day contract for NIL so definitely not a three year.

The NIL collectives could enter into multi year deals for NIL. The problem is that it's one sided since (wink-wink) the NIL contracts have absolutely nothing to do with playing time at the institution. Hence we got the Skyy situation. So obviously, with no ability for reciprocity on the player's side the NIL groups aren't going to go multi-year.

This also seems to be ripe for challenge in the courts. More importantly, it could probably get pretty easily changed by the NCAA which I believe is the reason the "no play to pay" aspect of this exists.
 
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I really like your post. Would love to get this kid. Fingers crossed on his reclassifying to this year. My only quibble would be the "big hole" at SG. We've got DGL, Tre White and Jake Davis in the fold right now. Not arguing about the hole, just the "big" hole.
I think we have a huge hole at SG right now. Tre White is a 3/4 and Jake Davis is a 3/2 that likely isn't ready for significant minutes. Our guards right now are Boswell and DGL. That's it.
 
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This staff is cooking ... That's all I've got to say ...

Heading overseas again ... You guys can all determine that means ... There will likely be another guy who joins in addition as well ... Lathon, Monsanto, as well as a couple others I was told but will keep quiet for now ... They want to see how the du$t settles after they lock down the primary target ...

2025 ... You guys are starting to see some of the names I've been told behind the scenes for a while ... People DO NOT want to see our staff on the trail ... I am told all 4 of the guys below plan to take OVs ... Jeremiah Fears has been doing some recruiting of his own as well ... :cool:




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PizzaHutParkingLot

McPherson, KS
This staff is cooking ... That's all I've got to say ...

Heading overseas again ... You guys can all determine that means ... There will likely be another guy who joins in addition as well ... Lathon, Monsanto, as well as a couple others I was told but will keep quiet for now ... They want to see how the du$t settles after they lock down the primary target ...

2025 ... You guys are starting to see some of the names I've been told behind the scenes for a while ... People DO NOT want to see our staff on the trail ... I am told all 4 of the guys below plan to take OVs ... Jeremiah Fears has been doing some recruiting of his own as well ... :cool:





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How about a Rutgers-like haul for 2025?
 
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This staff is cooking ... That's all I've got to say ...

Heading overseas again ... You guys can all determine that means ... There will likely be another guy who joins in addition as well ... Lathon, Monsanto, as well as a couple others I was told but will keep quiet for now ... They want to see how the du$t settles after they lock down the primary target ...

2025 ... You guys are starting to see some of the names I've been told behind the scenes for a while ... People DO NOT want to see our staff on the trail ... I am told all 4 of the guys below plan to take OVs ... Jeremiah Fears has been doing some recruiting of his own as well ... :cool:




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To start to get a handle on it, NIL contract details need to be public knowledge. Can FOIA requests capture the information from public universities if players are essentially ad reps or borderline employees?
 
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This staff is cooking ... That's all I've got to say ...

Heading overseas again ... You guys can all determine that means ... There will likely be another guy who joins in addition as well ... Lathon, Monsanto, as well as a couple others I was told but will keep quiet for now ... They want to see how the du$t settles after they lock down the primary target ...

2025 ... You guys are starting to see some of the names I've been told behind the scenes for a while ... People DO NOT want to see our staff on the trail ... I am told all 4 of the guys below plan to take OVs ... Jeremiah Fears has been doing some recruiting of his own as well ... :cool:




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Sooooo...

Who are our primary targets at the moment (for 2024-25)?

Watkins, Monsanto, Lathon, Riley, Kasparas,...anyone else to add...?
 
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This staff is cooking ... That's all I've got to say ...

Heading overseas again ... You guys can all determine that means ... There will likely be another guy who joins in addition as well ... Lathon, Monsanto, as well as a couple others I was told but will keep quiet for now ... They want to see how the du$t settles after they lock down the primary target .

OA taking care of the competition. 😎

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at least in pro sports you can sign a guy for 3-4 years (or more)

in college now , it’s just one year .
its ridiculous . you have to re-recruit your entire roster of eligible players every friggin year
Yes, limit them to one free transfer. If they choose to transfer again then they have to sit out a year like it used to be. That would slow a lot of this down.
 
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