I think it's the hair.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (January-February 2018)
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I think it's the hair.
Its somewhat obvious Kipper takes some plays off on both ends of the court. He's probably our best rebounder, and if he could keep his motor up, he'd start for us. He also throws up a ton of ridiculous shots. Need to cut down on those or go up harder and get the foul.
I dont think many want to see Kipper leave, but the thought process is BU isn't a fan of a lot of the ways he plays. He's obviously a capable scorer. Motor and ball handling need to improve. I expect him back, but wouldn't be surprised to see him leave--whether it be by his own fruition or BU's nudge (highly doubt this will be the case).
Probably in the 1,000's of reasons why
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Also, Kipper would lose a year of eligibility if he transfers (unless he transfers down a level).
The only way Kipper Nichols transfers is if Underwood forces him out.
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It's a message board, so there's no sense in telling people not to speculate.
But I really hate this game of speculating who's leaving. I realize it's pretty innocent chatter, but from the perspective of a player's family member, it's as if the fans want that person to leave. And we have at least one player's family who posts on this board.......
If there are tangible indicators, then that's worth discussing. For instance, if somebody's playing time suddenly diminishes dramatically, that's a pretty good indicator. If somebody's attitude becomes visibly worse, that's an indicator. If somebody's family member -- ala DJW's mom -- start mouthing off on Twitter, that's an indicator. But most of this seems like baseless speculation.
I would compare Nichols game this year with Leron's of last year. Leron introduced that jumper of his last year and it showed potential, but was inconsistent. After an off season of refinement and game planning under BU and staff, Leron looks and plays like such a refined B1G player this year. And this is what I look for as frosh become sophs become juniors. Kipper is only in his second year after only playing a semester last year. I think he is just overwhelmed this year, and with an off season under the coaching staff to refine things, I would be definitely looking for big things from Kipper next season.
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:thumb:You're posts are reasonable and spot on. Really I think you should consider leaving, there's no room for your kind here.
Kipper does some good things. It seems at times he gets in a hurry. Early in the year he treated the ball like it was a grenade. Then, after the first Michigan State game, it seemed his confidence soared and he played better. When the game slows down a little more for him, he will be a solid , consistent contributor.
Nichols is selfish and doesn' t produce enough dimes?:thumb: If he had a brother we would have 2 Nichols to play together? :thumb: If Nichols were any bigger we could hope for some change....:thumb: Seeing my way out now...
This. Kipper is a sophomore and has made strides compared to last season. It’s a work in progress.
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Absolutely. Kipper has scored in double figures 14 times and has averaged 15.3 in those games. On the flipside, he has scored 5 or less 10 times. Next year should be a more consistent year, a breakout year, and a fun one for him and all.
And about recruiting, I would be ecstatic to add Trice and with some sort of miracle, Ramey.
One of the top 15 Sophomores in the conference and 4 of those 15 are on MSU. Not sure where or why all this hate for Nichols is coming from.
The Lucas will be Alstork next year is referenced ONLY to his defense. This is where he will get on the court mostly next year imo. We will have Frazier (better PG/SG/Scorer), Ayo better PG, Smith/Williams etc and Lucas...assuming we don't take another. His minutes will go down unless he becomes the defensive Alstork next year.
He missed a dunk, awful turnovers, and drives BU crazy at times. Top 15 sophomores in conference? I'd like to see that list.
Also I don't think there is hate. Just conversation. At this rate Kipper is an inconsistent player on a horrible team
There is not all this hate for Nichols. Just a couple of posters giving an opinion that a large majority will disagree with. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill.
I forgot that little detail when completely speculating earlier about Kipper transferring. There's really no hate on my part towards him. I just think he doesn't seem like a BU type of player due to his tendency to make bone headed plays and take plays off. Is he coachable during practice? I don't know. He's great when he's on, but when he's off.... not so much. I'd love to see him get better and be consistently productive next year. It all depends on how much effort Kipper wants to put in. If the light bulb turns on and he gives 100% every play, he's going to be a part of the culture BU wants. If he's going to sulk after making a mistake and take plays off, then he's not a part of the culture and I wouldn't be surprised to see BU tell him to take a hike. It's all speculation and I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.
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Well if that's your reasoning then isn't everyone gone except Frazier and Black? Kipper drives BU crazy because he knows how good Kipper can be. He has the highest ceiling on the team. BU isn't going to push that out the door. The only way Kipper leaves is if Kipper wants to leave. Considering that he would have to waste a year, that seems extremely unlikely. Certain guys just need to be chewed out all the time. Doesn't mean the coach dislikes them.
From what we know (which is almost nothing), Frazier and Nichols are the 2 who are least likely to transfer.
Coach U isn't going to force out a very useful player like Kipper, he's going to make him better. Kipper is only just now a sophomore since he missed the first semester last year. There's no problem speculating that someone might leave, but it makes more sense to speculate about guys that aren't very productive. He's not consistent, but that's typical with inexperienced players. Kipper will be better and more consistent next year and so will we.
Same school Ken Norman went to.
Right. BU is going to tell Nichols, whom he described as “sky’s the limit” to take a hike.
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Good luck with that. This board can make a universe out of a grain of sand.
Foolish thinking, IMO. You should be prepared to be surprised, I guess. Not sure why Kipper being a big part of the team next year should surprise anyone, but there it is. I'd say he's probably the least likely player to be going anywhere since he already transferred and would lose a year, and I have trouble understanding why anyone would want him to leave.
First of all, and not saying its you, but whenever discussion of a certain matter takes place, there are several posters who must act like because a discussion is taken place then everybody in the conversation is an absolute moron.
For the most part of the Kipper discussion has been this. Pretty talented, Bad motor, is he a BU guy (does he like playing for BU). None of this has been hate, but give me a break if it isn't news worthy.
To go to your points, yes at this moment it does mean everyone besides Black and Frazier... Thats why we are in last place.
Kipper doesn't have the highest ceiling (I would argue) however he does have untapped potential.
And I never thought it would be BU to push him out, however more of Kipper wanting out.
A classic case of over exaggeration to make a counter point that no one was arguing.
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