I’m guessing no Fred Miller?
Positive waves, man. I like it!
Love to have your post and insight from what you can share as always, buuuuuuuuut this has happened more than I like so I will remain skeptical until
Love to have your post and insight from what you can share as always, buuuuuuuuut this has happened more than I like so I will remain skeptical until
Gesky and brenson. Both are in. Just waiting to announce. Heard it will be this weekend. Patterson the DE out of LA is also one who could pop.
You mean Ja’Marian Peterson?
This exact discussion is 75% of the recruiting thread. I tend to agree with you.
Yes Peterson, the DE out of LA. If I was betting I would say no for a composite 4* on 247. Wisecarver is a 4* on ESPN and maybe a flip later in the process, but I don’t know of any. I don’t disagree with you at all and can see your point. Lovie doesn’t like playing games, he’s about loyalty and commitment. So he doesn’t like to get involved in a ton of high profile recruits because it leads to a lot of drama usually. But yes the recruiting does have me worried when I see others in the B10 bringing in four stars left and right. But at the same time, don’t we at least on here feel like we are better then some of the teams that have more 4* then us? I like the strategy of going with athletic ability and trusting the coaches to make them football players. Too man guys in our first couple of classes weren’t athletic enough to play in the big ten. So yes I would say that I am worried about us compared to our division rivals. At the same time we finished above 3 of them last year that have way more prep 4 stars then we did, is that a result of good evaluations?
What's the expectation for Purdue and Northwestern next season?
No it really isn't. If we put forth a ton of time and resources into high 4 star level prospects and keep losing out on them to bigger schools is that really worth the investment? We missed out on a lot of good players last class using all our time/resources for mookie cooper, we missed and paid the price. When you start talking about those level of recruits, politics start to matter and the drama starts to increase. Things lovie doesn't like to play. It all about how you want to see resources being used.This is... um. Wow. The opposite of what we should be doing?
According to vegas, this is the before B10 only schedule was announced.
I guess it really depends on what Lovie is going for. We could go with the Iowa/ Wisconsin strategy of getting lower rated recruits that have tools and fit the system which seems to be what he's going for now. Or we could go the Tennessee/ Ron zook route and chase as many high profile recruits as possible and hope they all mesh at the end. I wouldn't say either is right or wrong but it's important to have a clear plan and own it.This is... um. Wow. The opposite of what we should be doing?
Im counting 13 of 21 recruits in Iowa's 2020 class with multiple p5 offers. I'm only counting one of our guys without p5 offers and 8 with multiple offers. Of course 13 vs 21 recruits makes this comparison pointless. To be clear they still get better recruits but we're not the only school taking lightly recruited players.
Yes, this is what other, winning programs do all the time. And Mookie Cooper was a Top 100 player who had a direct connection to Corey Patterson. That's a unique case. I'm not saying Illinois should be going for Top 100 players consistently (unless it's a situation like Mookie), but there are over 300 seniors ranked as 4* in the 2021 247 Composite Rankings. Three hundred. Illinois: 7, Missouri: 3, Indiana: 3, Wisconsin: 2, Michigan: 9, Ohio: 9, Minnesota: 2, Iowa: 3. These are 38 of them all in Illinois' back yard. The staff can't identify a few of these guys and land at least one of them?
Mookie Cooper is a really bad example. If you give up on that kid, with his former coach on staff, a few of his hs teammates on the roster, and what seemed like more than a fighting chance then Lovie is in the wrong business. If you are only going to recruit guys you know you can get, because you are worried resources then you are also in the wrong business. Thinking that we can’t recruit 4 & 5 stars because there might be too much drama is also a lame excuse. It wasn’t that long ago we reeled in Beason, Williams, & Cooper in one class, it’s possible. Transfers are fine, getting undervalued players out of the south is fine, but neither of those is exclusive of getting higher ranked players and doing better in state. We need to do all this stuff & if resource’s becomes the issue work harder, but no excuses that we would work to hard and not have anything to show for it.
I never said you give up on a high level recruit. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that other recruits felt Illinois paid a lot of attention to Mookie on visits. And it possibly hurt us on other recruitments. It’s just part of the game. Going for high level recruits is great in theory but in all honesty using the 3 highest commits in the last decade as a example of what we can do isn’t realistic.
