Illini Basketball 2024-2025

#27      
Two first round projected draft picks on the team and they have us out side the top 25?

Oh we like that…. Bring it on!

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#30      
Curious how accurate KenPom preseason rankings are considering they’re based on very little meaningful data for the coming season. So many people complain about AP preseason polls, but I wouldn’t be surprised is KenPom’s aren’t just as bad or worse.
KenPom and Torvik both rely pretty heavily on player performance from previous seasons and some kind of hand-wavy projection for freshmen to inform preseason rankings, and both admit that it's imperfect. It's especially challenging when you have a freshman-heavy team and/or a lot of transfers with no history at the highest level of basketball. I'm not sure how either handle European players, but I imagine that's also tricky.

If you look at the team details for Torvik, this is pretty well illustrated. Jakucionis, Ivisic, and Humrichous are all projected to be fairly ho-hum by that model, likely due to lack of reliable data on them. It does project Riley to be impactful, though.
 
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#33      
Two first round projected draft picks on the team and they have us out side the top 25?

Oh we like that…. Bring it on!

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Rutgers has two players to be drafted in the top 5(one site says #2 and #3) and they're ranked 25th. One spot ahead of us. Based on the NBA draft theory, we're right where we should be.
 
#34      
More bummed about this than I should be considering I'm not concerned so much this year about wins, losses, and ranking during the first month or so of the season.

But, we were riding a four year streak of being ranked in the preseason, our longest such streak ever, and I hate seeing that come to an end.
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#35      
Just realizing Alabama plays Purdue right before us. If they steal our upset I will be VERY mad.

Kansas has UNC and Michigan State early, if they slip up and Bama beats Purdue, they will surely take #1 for our game. That's where we want them.
 
#37      
I saw Houston's first practice, didn't seem top 10 IMHO. Would keep our roster. Arkansas should be higher as well.
 
#41      
Think you meant aren't, but yeah, I don't see how any preseason ranking could be accurate. They're usually a handful of pretenders that don't work out, and sleepers that way overperform, and the rest are constantly moving up and down around an unknown average. Still think it's fun to see what the crowd thinks going into the season.
Correct, meant aren't.
 
#49      
Has any team ever has the level of roster turnover we had this offseason and been ranked higher than the #26 ranking we essentially have? Just two returning players, one of whom averaged just 7 minutes per? This actually appears to be a high level of trust in our program from the national media.
 
#50      
I really don't place much stock in these unaware and deficient early pre-season rankings. I do know Illini will be very good and have top ten potential.
 
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