Illini Basketball 2024-2025

#151      
See: Ty Rodgers starting every game last year as the youngest main rotation piece on the roster.
Couldn't you tie that in with the fact that we didn't have a true PG? Ty's role was being a primary ball handler in most cases. I don't see that happening this year again.
 
#152      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Couldn't you tie that in with the fact that we didn't have a true PG? Ty's role was being a primary ball handler in most cases. I don't see that happening this year again.
Domask took over as the primary ballhandler and Ty still started every game.

He was a bad matchup in certain situations and left a sour taste with his disasterclass against UConn.

But everybody seems to be forgetting the postgame threads where we were like "Ty had 6 points and was the best player on the floor", and also when we got so frustrated with him being sat in favor of Harmon in crunch time.

So long as his lack of shooting isn't gumming up the gears of the offense (and it shouldn't given how strong our shooting is elsewhere especially in the frontcourt), he needs to be out there for all the things he provides.

And I felt like that was the consensus opinion around here during the season, but that seems to have disappeared as we project next year, and I find that as perplexing as it is analytically misguided.

BU loves Ty, he's going to play a ton and probably start.
 
#153      

lstewart53x3

Scottsdale, Arizona
Domask took over as the primary ballhandler and Ty still started every game.

He was a bad matchup in certain situations and left a sour taste with his disasterclass against UConn.

But everybody seems to be forgetting the postgame threads where we were like "Ty had 6 points and was the best player on the floor", and also when we got so frustrated with him being sat in favor of Harmon in crunch time.

So long as his lack of shooting isn't gumming up the gears of the offense (and it shouldn't given how strong our shooting is elsewhere especially in the frontcourt), he needs to be out there for all the things he provides.

And I felt like that was the consensus opinion around here during the season, but that seems to have disappeared as we project next year, and I find that as perplexing as it is analytically misguided.

BU loves Ty, he's going to play a ton and probably start.
To add to this,

Ty’s a guy who started and played 23 minutes a game without taking a shot further than 10 feet from the basket for a team that was *still* top 5 in offensive efficiency.
 
#154      
Domask took over as the primary ballhandler and Ty still started every game.

He was a bad matchup in certain situations and left a sour taste with his disasterclass against UConn.

But everybody seems to be forgetting the postgame threads where we were like "Ty had 6 points and was the best player on the floor", and also when we got so frustrated with him being sat in favor of Harmon in crunch time.

So long as his lack of shooting isn't gumming up the gears of the offense (and it shouldn't given how strong our shooting is elsewhere especially in the frontcourt), he needs to be out there for all the things he provides.

And I felt like that was the consensus opinion around here during the season, but that seems to have disappeared as we project next year, and I find that as perplexing as it is analytically misguided.

BU loves Ty, he's going to play a ton and probably start.
I think you may see Ty initiate the offense some this year depending on matchups...I could see Ty bringing the ball into the front court and then getting the ball into Boswells hands and allowing him to penetrate the lane for shots or assist to someone underneath or on the perimeter and this would also allow Ty to rome towards the basket for offensive rebounds and put backs...now at the end of the game where you need the ball in the hands of a good FT shooter it will be Bos....Ty not so much
 
#156      
Take Rogers & Booth down a couple, swap White & Humrichous. Morez isn't going to score a ton, take him down 2.5 and Ivisic down 1. That gives us 83. Also guys will miss games so factor that in to averages as well.
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In college bball the stats indicate a team must play decent defense and score on offense over 70 points to have a chance to win the game. Teams that have a +18 AdjEM average around 20 victories while those teams with a +10 AdjEM average around 10 victories at the end of February/beginning of March. Especially true for road games.
 
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#158      
data courtesy of kenpom. Image via Google photos and chart created in excel office 365 k.w.piotter
 
#161      
If we face two good, smaller, quick guards, who is going to guard them? We only have two guys on the roster smaller than 6'6".
DGL is one of those two.
As much as people like height, who do we have that is explosive and can get around people with the ball and a quick first step?
DGL and Boswell.
I thing DGL is being undersold and is going to be needed, and will produce more than what is being talked about.
I am excited about the ceiling of this freshmen class as much as anybody, but I believe there are players who are being overlooked that are going to be ready THIS SEASON to come much closer to their "ceiling". They might not ultimately have as high a ceiling as the freshmen class but they will be ready to produce NOW. DGL leads the way in that category. I think the sophomore class will be interesting to watch.
 
#162      

InDaAZ

Eugene, Oregon
If we face two good, smaller, quick guards, who is going to guard them? We only have two guys on the roster smaller than 6'6".
DGL is one of those two.
As much as people like height, who do we have that is explosive and can get around people with the ball and a quick first step?
DGL and Boswell.
I thing DGL is being undersold and is going to be needed, and will produce more than what is being talked about.
I am excited about the ceiling of this freshmen class as much as anybody, but I believe there are players who are being overlooked that are going to be ready THIS SEASON to come much closer to their "ceiling". They might not ultimately have as high a ceiling as the freshmen class but they will be ready to produce NOW. DGL leads the way in that category. I think the sophomore class will be interesting to watch.
Word from practices last year painted DGL as a tenacious defender, but also a fouling machine. It would be nice if Brad schedules Mr. Trent Frazier to spend time with Dra for some workouts and Zenlike training - because if you're talking ceiling, that's where I see DGL's to be.
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#163      
If we face two good, smaller, quick guards, who is going to guard them? We only have two guys on the roster smaller than 6'6".
DGL is one of those two.
As much as people like height, who do we have that is explosive and can get around people with the ball and a quick first step?
DGL and Boswell.
I thing DGL is being undersold and is going to be needed, and will produce more than what is being talked about.
I am excited about the ceiling of this freshmen class as much as anybody, but I believe there are players who are being overlooked that are going to be ready THIS SEASON to come much closer to their "ceiling". They might not ultimately have as high a ceiling as the freshmen class but they will be ready to produce NOW. DGL leads the way in that category. I think the sophomore class will be interesting to watch.
I agree with you in general. Perimeter quickness might be an issue for us. FWIW KJ is listed anywhere from 6'2 to 6'6, so he's likely in the "smaller than 6'6 category." I think DGL will have to play some minutes just because Kylan and KJ are the only real guards on this team. Sure Ty "could" play some 1 and White "could" play some 2, but both guys are more 3s or even 4s.
 
#164      
I agree with you in general. Perimeter quickness might be an issue for us. FWIW KJ is listed anywhere from 6'2 to 6'6, so he's likely in the "smaller than 6'6 category." I think DGL will have to play some minutes just because Kylan and KJ are the only real guards on this team. Sure Ty "could" play some 1 and White "could" play some 2, but both guys are more 3s or even 4s.
KJ measured at 6-5 1/2 without shoes.
 
#168      
I think Boswell and Ty will start in November. Some combination of Humrichous, Morez, Ivisic, Jakucionis, Riley and White fill the other three positions. There is going to be really intense competition for those spots.

I also think that the five starters in March will be different than the five starters in November.

DGL, Booth and Davis are going to have to fight hard for minutes.

I love this.
 
#169      
Lots of excitement about Ben H. Can someone explain more? Didn't make any of three all MVC teams. Nice numbers on a mediocre team. But why are people convinced this translates so well to the big ten?
 
#170      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Lots of excitement about Ben H. Can someone explain more? Didn't make any of three all MVC teams. Nice numbers on a mediocre team. But why are people convinced this translates so well to the big ten?
He's a great shooter and the oldest guy on the team and will play a lot.

But people overcooked their takes about him back when that's what was needed for the day's "optimistic" narrative before we added a bunch more terrific players.

If Humdinger were our alpha dog we'd be cooked. But he's going to be in a supporting role he's perfect for.
 
#172      
Lots of excitement about Ben H. Can someone explain more? Didn't make any of three all MVC teams. Nice numbers on a mediocre team. But why are people convinced this translates so well to the big ten?

I was told this morning he would be the best player on the team lol
 
#173      
Ben’s last season stats are very impressive. The 41.4% on the three ball I suspect is better than anyone on the Illini team.

Brad said that in summer scrimmage Ben’s got a better game than the coaches thought.

At 6’9” he will be able to shoot over a perimeter defender. He will be a great player.

STATS
2023-24

GPMINFG%3P%FT%REBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
2429.648.441.475.74.71.90.90.71.21.214.7
 
#174      
Ben’s last season stats are very impressive. The 41.4% on the three ball I suspect is better than anyone on the Illini team.

Brad said that in summer scrimmage Ben’s got a better game than the coaches thought.

At 6’9” he will be able to shoot over a perimeter defender. He will be a great player.

STATS
2023-24

GPMINFG%3P%FT%REBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
2429.648.441.475.74.71.90.90.71.21.214.7

Check his stats against P5 tho. I certainly hope your right, but I’m more subdued in my optimism.


7 points, 0 rebound against Indiana State (not P5 but ranked)
8 points, 6 rebound against BYU
 
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#175      

derrick6

Illini Dawg
Seattle