GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
2012 was our last championship in Men's Gymnastics. Stanford has won it the last 5 times in a row.
Illini Athletics Revenue
Stanford is in the Big Ten when it comes to gymnastics? Really? That's odd to me.
EDIT: I see, you said Championships meaning National I'm assuming? I'm an idiot.
There are 15 total teams in NCAA Men's gymnastics. Not the Big Ten, the entire NCAA. Fifteen that include 3 Div. 3 teams. Twelve in Div. 1.
The 2026 National Championship is scheduled to held in State Farm Center, FWIW.
I know these are 2023 numbers but I thought I read that Women basketball was closer to break even than the 4 million loss. Same with Volleyball, with very few volleyball programs breaking even, we were one of the better programs dollar wise. Makes me wonder if the NIL money is taking away from the money donated to those programs directly. Not sure if we can get a breakdown of that. Right now WBB is a must have for students campus life as it is a growing sport. We could have filled the place if Iowa had played here last year.
With conferences that span the whole country and the growing lack of regionality there might not be many chances to cut travel. No idea how insurance works for travel, but I’m assuming it plays a role and stipulates certain conditions need to be met for safety and all that. I’d say alternatives to scholarship money would be the best option for ‘cuts’, especially if players are considered employees. But that would likely just be moving things around on the balance sheet ultimately. Tough situation.
Something to consider, how many former football and basketball players become big donors? To secure long term donations from former athletes at least who end up being financially successful, maybe hold on to the country club sports or invest in some nice chess sets.
For travel, I guess teams could take the budget bus like Ricky Vaughn and Co. in Major League then take the classes (will they even be required?) on an I phone. The bus seemed to not hinder the Tribe’s on field performance nor jeopardize their safety.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
People have obviously floated this in the past, but why the hell is there not more discussion about sports other than football and basketball just playing more regional schedules? It seems it would benefit the universities to not have to fund their travels, and it would at least be a bone thrown to those who miss the old regional conferences.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The obvious first domino to fall here would be the re-creation of the original Pac 10 as a non-revenue sport conference.
A beachhead for the counterrevolution.
I think someone gave a one-time $4 million donation in Shauna's first year.
The travel savings can be done. When my daughter played field hockey at Northwestern a couple of years ago they rarely flew on a plane. When they did, it was on Southwest out of Midway on a red eye. They bussed everywhere, including Penn St., Michigan St., and Ohio St. Lunch on the bus was often a carton of chocolate milk. Only plane trips in 4 years was to Stanford/Cal (once), Syracuse (once), Boston (once), and North Carolina/Duke (twice). If Jim Phillips can do it, we can do it.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
I like the combination of these two things:
(1) We're a traditional national basketball powerhouse (Top 10-15 all-time), and
(2) Our stellar Athletic Director is a football guy
I think these two facts should ensure we invest wisely and significantly in both sports.
In their case this is probably icing on the cake, unique to mizzou. The donors want a comfy suite to watch their other donations at work on the field kind of thing.
I posted this in response to Jeremy's article because I think it's important to the whole discussion of cutting sports:
I went through Jeremy's posted chart or each sport to try and get a better view of what a sport costs the university. The problem with the Revenue/Expenses chart is it doesn't account for what the university makes via Tuition, Room/Board/Books/etc. on each athlete.
It's impossible to know what each athlete is getting via scholarships so all of this is an exercise in educated guessing.
*I didn't include FB, or M/W BB as they get full scholarships.
First, I found the roster size of each sport for the 2023-2024. I then subtracted the total number of scholarships available (This assumes all scholarships are used.)
I then went and got the COA for the 2023-2024 from the website. In-State ended up being 35k/year and Out-State/Int was 54k/year.
The biggest issue in all this comes here because there can be a wide variance in what the school is making due to tuition differences and living off-campus. So I ended up guessing that they make between 35k-45k/athlete a year.
Here is the result [The number is the result of ((Roster-Scholarships) * COA) -Athletic Deficit]
This should give a much better idea of the true cost to the university since athletics is not the only benefit from having the sports. For example, if wrestling were cut the University would save between 300k-575k a year approximately. All the way up to women's track at 1.6m-1.25m.
I went through Jeremy's posted chart or each sport to try and get a better view of what a sport costs the university. The problem with the Revenue/Expenses chart is it doesn't account for what the university makes via Tuition, Room/Board/Books/etc. on each athlete.
It's impossible to know what each athlete is getting via scholarships so all of this is an exercise in educated guessing.
*I didn't include FB, or M/W BB as they get full scholarships.
First, I found the roster size of each sport for the 2023-2024. I then subtracted the total number of scholarships available (This assumes all scholarships are used.)
I then went and got the COA for the 2023-2024 from the website. In-State ended up being 35k/year and Out-State/Int was 54k/year.
The biggest issue in all this comes here because there can be a wide variance in what the school is making due to tuition differences and living off-campus. So I ended up guessing that they make between 35k-45k/athlete a year.
Here is the result [The number is the result of ((Roster-Scholarships) * COA) -Athletic Deficit]
This should give a much better idea of the true cost to the university since athletics is not the only benefit from having the sports. For example, if wrestling were cut the University would save between 300k-575k a year approximately. All the way up to women's track at 1.6m-1.25m.