Conference Realignment

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This should have happened a decade ago. Louisville and Cincy should have joined the Big 12 when WVA did. Never made sense why it didn't happen. Would have made a quality, relatively compact northern division.
At the time, I think the Big 12 appeared to be in a much more precarious position than the ACC when Louisville made this move. Hindsight is 20/20 though, they would have been in a great place in the Big 12, and they will be when they make this move.
 
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At the time, I think the Big 12 appeared to be in a much more precarious position than the ACC when Louisville made this move. Hindsight is 20/20 though, they would have been in a great place in the Big 12, and they will be when they make this move.
Louisville didn't join the ACC until a couple years later. The Big 12 added W VA from the dying Big East football conference just before the Big East split into the basketball-only "old" Big East and the football-playing American. I don't remember why the Big 12 stopped expansion at 10 members, but at the time, Louisville would have jumped at a chance for a home anywhere other than the American.
 
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To me this says: Big Ten to 24 teams is the endgame. Notre Dame, Florida State, Clemson, and Miami join the Big Ten by the end of the decade, and then in the 2030s we add four more which could look like Texas A&M, Oregon, Washington, and a wild card school like apparently Mizzou or one mid-tier ACC schools (Virginia Tech, NC State).
 
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To me this says: Big Ten to 24 teams is the endgame. Notre Dame, Florida State, Clemson, and Miami join the Big Ten by the end of the decade, and then in the 2030s we add four more which could look like Texas A&M, Oregon, Washington, and a wild card school like apparently Mizzou or one mid-tier ACC schools (Virginia Tech, NC State).

I wouldn't use much this guy says. It's just a regurgitation of others.

I don't think Clemson will get in the B1G and he thinks they're a Tier 1 target.

And the B1G will change before the end of the decade. I think they look at more than just the next 10-years but what will 50-years down the road look like? He's right in it being a coast-to-coast conference and you'll need more from the West than just the 2 to be a true C-to-C. PNW is growing at 2x the national average, hence Washington and likely Oregon - pre-2030.
 
#180      
2021 to 2022 growth - this is why B10 expansion will be in TX or Florida. TX, TX A&M, and Univ Florida are already in SEC. That leaves the FSU or Miami
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#182      
They need to start working on getting to know the President at TA&M real well , and have them want to leave the SEC now that UT is coming in
Seriously ... let's let Texas A&M keep a bit of their dignity and not force them to ASK us to break up their marriage, we need to start aggressively dropping hints. :love:
 
#183      
They need to start working on getting to know the President at TA&M real well , and have them want to leave the SEC now that UT is coming in
Seriously ... let's let Texas A&M keep a bit of their dignity and not force them to ASK us to break up their marriage, we need to start aggressively dropping hints. :love:
The conference already has scUM's narcissism and the University of Spoiled Children's Affluenza, does it need Battered Aggie Syndrome in the screwball personality bingo card,
 
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Oregon - AAU in 1969
Washington - AAU in 1950
its not how it works anymore
I said it was a hot take.

There is the thing, both Oregon and Washington has AAU but the Big Ten has been lukewarm on them. ASU is based in a large city (Phoenix) with a lot Midwest transplants (especially Chicago) within reasonable travel distance of the LA schools. Assuming Tony Perritti's expansion MO would be similar to previous commissioners, ASU fits the previous "big TV market with ton of potential Big Ten students" approach that the Big Ten had in the past. Heck, they even have a hockey team.
 
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I agree that Arizona State could be a true sleeper expansion candidate. If I were thinking about eyeballs and markets, Arizona State would probably be the next school I am looking at out west.
 
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I said it was a hot take.

There is the thing, both Oregon and Washington has AAU but the Big Ten has been lukewarm on them. ASU is based in a large city (Phoenix) with a lot Midwest transplants (especially Chicago) within reasonable travel distance of the LA schools. Assuming Tony Perritti's expansion MO would be similar to previous commissioners, ASU fits the previous "big TV market with ton of potential Big Ten students" approach that the Big Ten had in the past. Heck, they even have a hockey team.
There are a number of positives for ASU. I am a little surprised at the AAU invitation as ASU is not an academic powerhouse. Phoenix metro is 5M people. A lot of Midwest retirees. They have money. I'm sure having an academic conference in Phoenix would be appealing to the Ivory Tower folks. It's growing but how serious is the water problem??

Washington/Seattle is much more of an academic fit with 4M metro population.

I don't see it but I didn't think ASU was in line for AAU either. ND always #1 - after that I'm sure the ACC contingent but those additions seem to be in the distant future. Oregon has a large viewership market - small population. How much does the B1G think that joining would help the viewership numbers of someone like ASU? They did get 2.3M and 2.71M vs. MSU in 2018/19 but overall ASU is not at the top for viewership - they are the Illinois of the Pac -
It would be nice to play ASU the last game of the season instead of Northwestern :)

I still have Washington as the likely next addition + ???.
 
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How much would joining the Big Ten help grow a University? Academically as well as viewership. How would adding other metro areas help the current B1G members grow(e.g. strengthen)?

What untapped potential do they have? Where will they be in 50-years?

It's like buying a business that has shi#@%tty management. Improve their product with better management and it's a win/win - it's not just a simple snapshot of today.
 
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AAU membership is certainly a positive thing, but the value of a school, and therefore why a conference would grow, is 99% based upon the value Fox and other networks place upon them for adding eyeballs to tv sets in the fall.
 
#196      
Some prospective Big Ten members just got invited into the AAU...

I remember some YouTuber saying a while back that Miami and Florida State were trying to join the AAU. Miami joining the AAU can only bolster their case for the B1G.

As for ND, good for them getting the AAU invite. Looks like the B1G will really want them now.

ASU is an intriguing one, now that they might join the AAU. I don't see B1G going after them unless we want to create somewhat of a land bridge to the West Coast that would include Colorado as well.

Now, let the chaos of realignment begin.
 
#197      
I remember some YouTuber saying a while back that Miami and Florida State were trying to join the AAU. Miami joining the AAU can only bolster their case for the B1G.

As for ND, good for them getting the AAU invite. Looks like the B1G will really want them now.

ASU is an intriguing one, now that they might join the AAU. I don't see B1G going after them unless we want to create somewhat of a land bridge to the West Coast that would include Colorado as well.

Now, let the chaos of realignment begin.
I think one was Gold & Blue Dude (who after checking his channel, I just found he has passed on a month ago :( )
 
#198      
There are a number of positives for ASU. I am a little surprised at the AAU invitation as ASU is not an academic powerhouse. Phoenix metro is 5M people. A lot of Midwest retirees. They have money. I'm sure having an academic conference in Phoenix would be appealing to the Ivory Tower folks. It's growing but how serious is the water problem??

Washington/Seattle is much more of an academic fit with 4M metro population.

I don't see it but I didn't think ASU was in line for AAU either. ND always #1 - after that I'm sure the ACC contingent but those additions seem to be in the distant future. Oregon has a large viewership market - small population. How much does the B1G think that joining would help the viewership numbers of someone like ASU? They did get 2.3M and 2.71M vs. MSU in 2018/19 but overall ASU is not at the top for viewership - they are the Illinois of the Pac -
It would be nice to play ASU the last game of the season instead of Northwestern :)

I still have Washington as the likely next addition + ???.
Viewership is as much about the channel as the team. We’ve been bad, so we play on BTN and FS1. Illinois delivered good ratings in good slots the last two years!
 
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I agree that Arizona State could be a true sleeper expansion candidate. If I were thinking about eyeballs and markets, Arizona State would probably be the next school I am looking at out west.
When traveling to the ASU game in 20 years, you'll be required to 1) bring your own drinking water, 2) limit showers to 1 per 3 days.
 
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