Chicago Bulls 2024-2025

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MustangWally
Roundball Sage said:
Regarding the Sox and Bulls Owner Mr. Reinsdorf... say (uh, stay with me now) that he’s just the greatest guy in the World! So misunderstood. So underappreciated. So much that we are so lucky to have him in the City of Broad Shoulders...

Having gotten all that out of the way... consider this:

He bought the White Sox in 1981. They have ONE title in 43 years under his leadership.

He bought the Bulls in 1985. They have SIX titles in 39 years under his leadership (and one very lucky draft pick that would have changed anyone’s franchise history).

Combined, that is SEVEN titles in 82 YEARS of his franchise(s) ownership and leadership. That’s a batting average of .085... Well below the Mendoza Line of .200. In fact, WAY below it.

His record – such as it is – speaks for itself. Whether or not fans should appreciate him (or not) is personal choice, as is whether or not his ownership performance is seen as admirable... or pretty much an underachieving failure.

And if you ever run into Michael Jordan, ask him (and other Bulls and Sox players too) about their true feelings about The Owner. You'll get more fireworks right there than the Bulls or Sox are likely to generate in the next five seasons combined.
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How does that compare to other team owners?
 
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Roundball Sage
Carter Waller said:
And Pippen, Horace Grant, Tony Kukoc and Phil Jackson.
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Of course they were key pieces. But the truth is that they had their chance to win titles without Jordan when he took a break from roundball -- and they couldn't do it just on their own. Jordan as GOAT was the central core and soul of the team and the others were nice surrounding elements. The Bulls never won a title without Michael.
 
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the juiceman cometh
Roundball Sage said:
Of course they were key pieces. But the truth is that they had their chance to win titles without Jordan when he took a break from roundball -- and they couldn't do it just on their own. Jordan as GOAT was the central core and soul of the team and the others were nice surrounding elements. The Bulls never won a title without Michael.
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You can use the same logic to discount the success of other modern NBA dynasties like the Spurs (couldn't win without Tim Duncan) or the Warriors (couldn't win without Steph). By that metric, nobody actually does a good job and everyone that wins is just lucky.

None of that changes the fact that the Bulls have 6 championships, which makes them the 4th most successful NBA franchise of all time.
 
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