CFB Coaching Carousel 2015-16

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Really ?

Second and Chalmers said:
He didn't though. Yes, Southern Miss did in fact lose 12 games and win 0 in 2012, but "an 0-12 team" has a meaning which does not fit the situation Monken inherited.

That's a program which dwarfs the rest of that conference in stature and infrastructure. If Monken stacks two 10 win seasons together this year and next? Color me interested for the other reasons you mentioned. But making the Southern Miss he inherited into a 9-3 team in the Sun Belt in three seasons is really not much to write home about.
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I'm an Illinois native - 35 years worth. Now been in MS for 24 years.
Just saying - in a state of a little over 2 million people, there are 3 D1 football programs - 2 also being in the SEC and both ranked in the top 25 (Ole Miss and MSU)

USM has to take the third fiddle players at best. And develop them.
Love coaches that have a bit of a record of developing talent and turning programs around - but then again that is not where U of I is right now :)
 
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djnyork said:
I'm an Illinois native - 35 years worth. Now been in MS for 24 years.
Just saying - in a state of a little over 2 million people, there are 3 D1 football programs - 2 also being in the SEC and both ranked in the top 25 (Ole Miss and MSU)

USM has to take the third fiddle players at best. And develop them.
Love coaches that have a bit of a record of developing talent and turning programs around - but then again that is not where U of I is right now :)
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@Second and Chalmers:

They don't play in the Sunbelt - they are in the Conference USA. Today will be a good test for Monken against Brohm's WKU high powered offense.

Conference USA is pretty weak but has some ok programs inluding Middle Tennessee, WKU, LA Tech and Marshall.
 
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Former EIU and current Bowling Green head coach Dino Babers to be hired as the new head coach at Syracuse.
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HuskerIllini said:
Wow...that kind of shocks me and tells me that the Illini probably could have had Babers with ease.
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I guess cubit just really sold himself on the job......they bought it......at least cubit isnt about the money he truly loves these illini athletes......

but the love for our student athletes doesnt win games :-( smh
 
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ChiCityIllini said:
@Second and Chalmers:

They don't play in the Sunbelt - they are in the Conference USA. Today will be a good test for Monken against Brohm's WKU high powered offense.

Conference USA is pretty weak but has some ok programs inluding Middle Tennessee, WKU, LA Tech and Marshall.
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Sorry, my bad, that's correct.

But it's a freudian slip really, because what is now the Conference USA is made up of mostly teams that were formerly in the Sun Belt.
 
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AaronB28 said:
I guess cubit just really sold himself on the job......they bought it
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Not a chance. They didn't buy it one iota. The move we made shows just the opposite, an absolutely iron-clad commitment that Bill Cubit NOT be our head coach in 2017.

A firm decision was made that Cubit was not the future. And in order to affect that change, they re-signed Bill Cubit. If that doesn't make sense, it's because its the work of people who are utterly, hopelessly clueless.
 
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Second and Chalmers said:
If that doesn't make sense, it's because its the work of people who are utterly, hopelessly clueless.
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None of their rationales make sense.

Let's retain a coach we don't want so that it will be easier for us to hire a permanent AD to fire that coach.

We need an Illini guy who bleeds O&B that understands the landscape here and considers this a dream destination but those candidates will turn us down if we hire a permanent football coach ahead of them.

No AD candidate is going to be willing to work with Dino Babers.

Let's set up a lame duck head coach who is almost certain to be fired in a year because that's better for the stability of the program than hiring an actual permanent head coach.
 
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Not going after Babers will either be a horrible mistake or a blessing in disguise... we will know in about 4 years. I am not as sold on him as some others, but he does have potential. That being said, I would have taken 4 years of Babers over 1-2 years of Cubit and uncertainty any day of the week.
 
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It's pretty clear that Babers wanted to come to Illinois and was expecting to come here. I guess we'll see in a couple of years how it would have worked out for us now that he's at the same level of school. In fact, I think the Illinois job would be easier to win at than Syracuse.
 
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So the AD will be selected before Cubit is approved by the BOT, give Cubit a few $ to retire for "health reasons" or something, and he or she will hire from this board's list of candidates (Brohm, Monken, Rhule, Riley, Fritz, Kiffin, Fleck, Pelini, Schiano, or Foster).... Right? Riiight? Riiiiiiight!? :lalala: :rage: :pray: :( :shakehands:
 
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JucoIllini10 said:
So the AD will be selected before Cubit is approved by the BOT, give Cubit a few $ to retire for "health reasons" or something, and he or she will hire from this board's list of candidates (Brohm, Monken, Rhule, Riley, Fritz, Kiffin, Fleck, Pelini, Schiano, or Foster).... Right? Riiight? Riiiiiiight!? :lalala: :rage: :pray: :( :shakehands:
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I was holding out hope that somehow, someway, this would be the case. But I expected that candidate to be Dino Babers. With him off the table I can't even give myself false hope.
 
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Soxfreak64

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ChiCityIllini said:
I like babers but if you want to see what are our program will look like with a guy like babers look east at IU. To compete in B1G you need to defend and be able to run the ball... No accident that Maryland hired a defensive minded coach. Rutgers seems to be leaning that way too.
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Or you have to be in a different division than Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan State...
 
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Well Babers had reportedly said earlier in the week that he would be willing to jump to another job from Bowling Green even if the new job wasn't a great situation.
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Yeah, Babers was going to be leaving one way or another. He was pretty open about his desire to move up. Would have to think that had we made a decent offer he would have bit.
 
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Smacko said:
Yeah, Babers was going to be leaving one way or another. He was pretty open about his desire to move up. Would have to think that had we made a decent offer he would have bit.
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Potential AD candidates: "Yes, I'm interested in the job if I have the freedom to fire Bill Cubit with one year left on his contract after the 2016 season if things aren't working out, but there is NO WAY I'm going to work with Dino Babers even if I have the freedom to fire him with one year left on his contract after the 2018 season if things aren't working out. I mean, one year with a coach I didn't personally hire, sure, sign me up. But THREE YEARS?!? Are you out of your mind?"

So you see? We actually dodged a bullet. Because it makes total sense that a potential AD candidate would view things that way.
 
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