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skyIdub
Yeah...something deeper in Sin City.

Also...

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#78      
Illini in Italy
ChiefGritty said:
Two thoughts.

1. To solve the problem you first have to understand the problem squarely. College athletes should play for one school. That should be the norm. That is the core distinguishing factor of the sport(s) and the long term viability of these guys making big bucks depends on that. That doesn't mean you have to go over the top banning transfers or something, but encouraging continuity with one school is the guiding light here.

2. With payment now connected to available eligibility years, and the inflow of foreign talent especially in basketball (but occasionally in football as well), you wonder if it wouldn't be easier to scrap class-based eligibility entirely and just institute an age limit. That might be an overreaction to the Covid year chaos that will be gone soon, but just a thought.
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I've been asking for at least a year - how long until an athlete sues for more years of competition, claiming it is arbitrary and capricious for the NCAA and its' member institutions limiting his or her ability to earn a living playing college sports? The athletes themselves (with their attorneys who no longer have to chase ambulances because of the NCAA presenting a huge target of opportunity) will kill college sports.


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#79      
gibb52
Sounds like the kid and his family were lead to believe $100k based on words from AC, went ahead and enrolled based on that but did not verify that $$ from anyone else and then found out the AC lied. Then a much smaller amount was offered and the QB and his family felt deceived. Which they may have been, but should have done more due diligence before committing. Of course none of us know anything other than what's out there so more info may be coming out at some point.
 
#80      
WeWillWhen
Sluka: seems likely to me that promises were made that never were cemented in a contract. Sluka has an agent; I would think finalizing an NIL contract would be in his area of responsibility. Lack of a contract makes this a very curious situation.
 
#81      
BretMyBeachHouse
aaeismacgychel said:
I don't think in season NIL needs to be connected to play or even should be connected to play in most cases. For example, here we might be talking about a player playing at a representative value higher than he signed for. Now it does make sense he may want or ask for more and to many it may seem like he should get more. But what about a player who underperformed per his original representative value? Should that similarly mean a school or collective be able to take money back from what was originally offered?

I think formal contracts ahead of the season clearly are the way to go. You meet the expectations set in the contract that you agree to, and you get the payment the school or collective agrees to. The real question is how do you get some semblance of continuity from season to season without everyone looking for the next best deal. And I've talked about this before but I think it's used the idea of longer term contracts with "vested" income that is higher than single year income that also offers things like insurance, health care, and financial advisors.

For example:
Program A has an intermediary offer you $250,000 for 1 year cash.

Program B offers you a formal legal contract of $450,000 over 2 years with $150,000 and benefits guaranteed and the full $450,000 and bennies if the player stays for the full 2 years.

Basically it makes the player choose whether they want to go the riskier route of year to year shopping that Program A offers but could potentially provide a higher overall payday if everything goes right, or to go with the more conservative but stable approach of Program B that insures against possible loss of income while not having the same profitability ceiling.

And while there's obvious risk for longer term contracts for schools as well, setting up long-term contracts like this may insulate you from bad years with appropriate money management
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I don’t think you understand my point.

These arrangements are for the players name. So when Skyy stopped playing for us he still got paid. That is absurd.
 
#82      
Chukwuwumba
ChiefGritty said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1839045210182922477
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Seems crazy the collective couldn’t go to the massive casinos nearby and just ask for a line of credit /s.
But seriously NIL deals are supposed to pop up when the team does well. Starting QB for a ranked team in Las Vegas. Should be a lot of opportunities to figure it out. Collective could’ve done better, maybe just thought QB was bluffing. I would say wait more time and maybe something will come up but with redshirt rule, here we are.
 
#85      
Bucktown
skyIdub said:
If it ain't in writing, it doesn't exist. IANAL.

But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week, which looked like it had seen it's fair share of IANAL.

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Right. If you want to be paid like a professional, then you need some professionalism.
 
#88      
AZILL
WeWillWhen said:
Sluka: seems likely to me that promises were made that never were cemented in a contract. Sluka has an agent; I would think finalizing an NIL contract would be in his area of responsibility. Lack of a contract makes this a very curious situation.
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Sluka NOW has an agent, he did not before..... who bears the blame in that? The Sluka family! They screwed up big time and are now trying fix it. This should be a valuable lesson for players to learn at someone else's expense.
 
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