Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Boskydell
Speaking of recruiting, and I know I've asked before; are we still interested in the top in state players: Heard, Alston, and Richardson? Or is strictly top 25's and international?
 
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aaeismacgychel
doowink said:
Yep...we didn't adjust very well ....the stripes had their whistles that day and intended to use them
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Hard to adjust when your defense is predicated on being a tight physical defense and the refs show up deciding to call a foul whenever one of your defenders was within 2 feet of an Arizona player... Shadow fouls...

The refs clearly were told from up high to tightly control the game such that it doesn't spiral out of control because of what happened between the teams earlier in the season and the animosity they had for one another. Unfortunately they took that to mean call everything that remotely looks like contact could occur. As such you weren't allowed to defend, and that was greatly to our detriment.

And now I'm pissed at Bill Walton all over again
 
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idoc13
HensonHall71 said:
The Kentucky, Duke, Kansas’s have had to deal with having a handful of 5 stars on the team where they all can’t be the alpha for decades now- we just have to get used to this- our pitch is no longer “come here to be the man”. It’s going to be “come here to play in the best offensive system in the country with other highly talented players so defenses can’t focus on you and you will get drafted based on the skills you show not your stats”

Castle just got drafted in the top 5 after his freshman season for his skills even though he was UConn’s 5th leading scorer and didn’t lead them in any statistical category

We just need to get guys that buy into that mentality- be on a great team with great players around you and everyone looks better
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This guy gets it.
 
#130      
IlliniFan42
Joel Goodson said:
couldn't agree with this prolific Illini fan more:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1811437072856829972

good landing spot for Langdon, IMO
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The genius move, to me, for the four-stars especially, is reclassify, collect NIL, and redshirt. That way they're freshmen when they were gonna be freshmen anyway, but will be ahead of the curve, development-wise (and education-wise if that matters). I think the one big limitation still in place is that players only have four years to audition for the NBA, so they need to make them count.
 
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jamarvelous31
Joel Goodson said:
couldn't agree with this prolific Illini fan more:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1811437072856829972

good landing spot for Langdon, IMO
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HUGE miss considering we were so interested we offered him twice...

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lstewart53x3
IlliniFan42 said:
The genius move, to me, for the four-stars especially, is reclassify, collect NIL, and redshirt. That way they're freshmen when they were gonna be freshmen anyway, but will be ahead of the curve, development-wise (and education-wise if that matters). I think the one big limitation still in place is that players only have four years to audition for the NBA, so they need to make them count.
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Not sure how much NIL a redshirt player will be able to collect.
 
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theNewGuy
lstewart53x3 said:
Not sure how much NIL a redshirt player will be able to collect.
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I think that if the player was to redshirt, there would be a clause written in the contract that said player is also committing to play next year, or else has to repay his NIL money.

For a 4* player to reclass, I doubt many kids would pass up 25k plus a scholarship and the use of facilities/training staff... obviously I am oblivious to actual numbers but 25k seems reasonable for a player to actually reclass as well as reasonable for a school to pay a kid to redshirt knowing he will be there next year, with a year of experience in their training/system
 
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PepeSilvia
lstewart53x3 said:
Not sure how much NIL a redshirt player will be able to collect.
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I would bet they could collect a pretty good sum for a redshirt season to get them in the program and keep them around for a couple years after.

The recruit might collect 50-100k, gets to start practicing and working out with a D1 program and get a head start on a degree(keep in mind the vast majority of recruits even top 100 ones won't play professionally and even the ones that do may only last a few years). They get this while also maintaining 4 years of eligibility to earn NIL while in college.

The school benefits by getting some recruits that would typically go to bigger schools but they can entice them with a payday and redshirt season with an open roster spot. Which helps spread talent around between schools instead of situations where you see top 100 guys go and ride the bench at blue bloods.
 
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therealmiket86
PepeSilvia said:
I would bet they could collect a pretty good sum for a redshirt season to get them in the program and keep them around for a couple years after.

The recruit might collect 50-100k, gets to start practicing and working out with a D1 program and get a head start on a degree(keep in mind the vast majority of recruits even top 100 ones won't play professionally and even the ones that do may only last a few years). They get this while also maintaining 4 years of eligibility to earn NIL while in college.

The school benefits by getting some recruits that would typically go to bigger schools but they can entice them with a payday and redshirt season with an open roster spot. Which helps spread talent around between schools instead of situations where you see top 100 guys go and ride the bench at blue bloods.
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With the way players are transferring programs won’t want to waste resources and time on players for them to redshirt and leave. Maybe players will sign multi year contracts and that will be more common.
 
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logjam
I don't think Fears transferring helped any if that helps....
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
logjam said:
How far do you think?....Riley barely dropped...
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He likely won't stay top 50...

which is what makes this "why are we willing to take Jasper but not Fears" topic so silly.

Jasper will most likely remain a five star if reclasses and at worst no less than top 25 vs a guy that likely will be in the 55-60ish range...
 
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3nDGuy
Putting rankings and potential reclass rankings aside.. Jeremiah’s body just isn’t ready for P5 CBB. It’s a grown man’s game, especially w/ so many 4-5 year players staying in college. So he’s a thanks but no thanks for ‘24 for me.
Reminds me of Khristian Lander, slight-of-frame 5 ⭐️ Indiana commit who got bullied hard in his very limited playing time.
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
Agree with the first paragraph expect...

it's not just the body. His shot has really taken a dip. Overall his game's just not ready...not just one area necessarily. Considering that, losing that developmental year won't fair well IMO, especially as a freshman...and maybe even onwards.

The second paragraph...uh...

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Combo
3nDGuy said:
Putting rankings and potential reclass rankings aside.. Jeremiah’s body just isn’t ready for P5 CBB. It’s a grown man’s game, especially w/ so many 4-5 year players staying in college. So he’s a thanks but no thanks for ‘24 for me.
Reminds me of Khristian Lander, slight-of-frame 5 ⭐️ Indiana commit who got bullied hard in his very limited playing time.
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JJ is at least as skinny as Jeremiah. I don't think body composition is that big of a factor (especially since they're guards). JJ's game is just more advanced.
 
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