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Tate | Illini AD saw all of this coming
Josh Whitman, as the smartest man in the room, whether it's the UI athletic department, in a quorum of Big Ten athletic directors or as chairman of the rules-making NCAA
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Tate | Illini AD saw all of this coming
Josh Whitman, as the smartest man in the room, whether it's the UI athletic department, in a quorum of Big Ten athletic directors or as chairman of the rules-making NCAAwww.news-gazette.com
I think your analysis is spot on. I think if you move volleyball to the SFC, then you turn Huff over to the University for academics/offices. Probably save some money as well. Volleyball could even generate more money with a bigger seating venue.I'm curious which sports get the axe and how quickly that decision gets made. Football and basketball are obviously safe. I'd have to think baseball/softball is safe as well. Sports that have seen somewhat recent investments/remodels like track/cc, tennis, and golf should be safe. Men's gymnastics, women's gymnastics, and possibly wrestling could be a thing of the past? Other women's sports (swimming, soccer, and volleyball) will depend on the future of Title IX rules regarding scholarship numbers and NIL.
I wonder how much does nixing the wrestling practice facilities predict the future of that program?I'm curious which sports get the axe and how quickly that decision gets made. Football and basketball are obviously safe. I'd have to think baseball/softball is safe as well. Sports that have seen somewhat recent investments/remodels like track/cc, tennis, and golf should be safe. Men's gymnastics, women's gymnastics, and possibly wrestling could be a thing of the past? Other women's sports (swimming, soccer, and volleyball) will depend on the future of Title IX rules regarding scholarship numbers and NIL.
I was wondering that too. I was thinking either the funds never materialized, or they were diverted to football or basketball.I wonder how much does nixing the wrestling practice facilities predict the future of that program?
Men's gymnastics is a certainty. I'm guessing it will still be very hard to dump any women's sports, although swimming/dive may be one. About the only safe Men's sports, I think, are the big 2 and golf. Perhaps baseball and tennis would have $$ backing. Otherwise, they all could be cut and you would hear howling but it wouldn't change the fan base and support.I'm curious which sports get the axe and how quickly that decision gets made. Football and basketball are obviously safe. I'd have to think baseball/softball is safe as well. Sports that have seen somewhat recent investments/remodels like track/cc, tennis, and golf should be safe. Men's gymnastics, women's gymnastics, and possibly wrestling could be a thing of the past? Other women's sports (swimming, soccer, and volleyball) will depend on the future of Title IX rules regarding scholarship numbers and NIL.
One could argue that we are better served trying to resurrect football with every penny we have from a pure media attractiveness and media $ perspective. If the top football programs break off and we are left behind, that is an insane amount of $ for the athletic department that would disappear and crush all sports.Illinois can't drop its football program, that would be unfathomable.
But how any marginal dollar can be going anywhere but Ubben at this point doesn't really make sense to me. Invest, invest, invest in what BU is doing.
It's incredibly frustrating to say this at a moment when Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, the classic "basketball schools" are having success on the gridiron too, but if the NIL era is pushing us toward Kansas-ification, I say embrace it.
If I believed we could do it, it's a no-brainer, do it. I am losing faith we've got the raw resources to matter in the new world order.One could argue that we are better served trying to resurrect football with every penny we have from a pure media attractiveness and media $ perspective.
I'm not entirely convinced that's true, given football's tendency to drink every milkshake on campus.If the top football programs break off and we are left behind, that is an insane amount of $ for the athletic department that would disappear and crush all sports.
I know, I would be really surprised to see football get reduced to 24 or 32 teams in the top tier; it would really limit the appeal and shut out many, many fans and alumni of schools. While the kids and coaches are paid in many cases like the pros; college fandom is such a different beast than professional sports.I'm not entirely convinced that's true, given football's tendency to drink every milkshake on campus.
This was in an article by Jeremy Werner showing that football is still the biggest money-maker for the school sports-wise by a lot.If I believed we could do it, it's a no-brainer, do it. I am losing faith we've got the raw resources to matter in the new world order.
I also wouldn't be advocating this if the basketball situation weren't so promising, with such strong evidence that Underwood will deliver on the resources he's given, and can make use of more.
I'm not entirely convinced that's true, given football's tendency to drink every milkshake on campus.
Wonder how the expenses are broken down between coaching/administrative salaries, travel, and scholarship money. Seems like travel would be the easiest and least controversial to trim. But is it enough?This was in an article by Jeremy Werner showing that football is still the biggest money-maker for the school sports-wise by a lot.
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I know that's the point du jour for the talking heads but I don't think that will ever happen. "Scale" will still be important in college athletics.If the top football programs break off and we are left behind, that is an insane amount of $ for the athletic department that would disappear and crush all sports.
This was in an article by Jeremy Werner showing that football is still the biggest money-maker for the school sports-wise by a lot.
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Using round numbers, it looks like there is a $25M surplus. Also, track and field is expensive.This was in an article by Jeremy Werner showing that football is still the biggest money-maker for the school sports-wise by a lot.
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If we look at these sports in a pure dollars and cents basis then why bother at all? Providing them is part of a larger mission for the university.Using these numbers (and keeping the number of men's and women's scholarships being eliminated the same), dropping men's gym, men's track, and wrestling along with dropping women's gym and swimming would save a total of around $7.3 million per year. That is also 52 scholarship athletes that will not be dipping into the "student athlete pool of NIL funds" that has been discussed.
Side note - the resurrection of women's basketball under Shauna Green has been fun to watch but that is a huge financial loss. Is that $4.4 million a year better spent on football and basketball recruits/transfers? Yes
I know this is an unpopular opinion around here, but give it all to MBB. It's simple return on investment. Every dollar we spend to move football from 17th in conference to 13th is a dollar Brad does not have to actually provide a winning experience.If I believed we could do it, it's a no-brainer, do it. I am losing faith we've got the raw resources to matter in the new world order.
I also wouldn't be advocating this if the basketball situation weren't so promising, with such strong evidence that Underwood will deliver on the resources he's given, and can make use of more.
I'm not entirely convinced that's true, given football's tendency to drink every milkshake on campus.
When I was on the Fighting Illini Fan Council a few years ago, I had a similar question about athletic dept. finances going in. They showed us that the DIA has several outstanding bonds due to the various renovation projects. $25 million per year for bond repayments sounds about right. The other B1G teams also have annual bond repayments.Using round numbers, it looks like there is a $25M surplus. Also, track and field is expensive.
Didn't men's gymnastics win the Big Ten championship like 2 years ago? Maybe even last year? If not, I know they're always competitive.I don't want to eliminate ANY of our sports, but If I'm Josh and I am forced to make the tough choices, I keep the non revenue teams that give me the best chance to win Big Ten and NCAA championships. And that would be men's golf and men's and women's track and field. Mike Small and Petros Kyprianu are among the best in their respective sports, and our facilities in both are top notch. Unfortunately we have always struggled in women's sports - dunno why.
Yup, you're absolutely right.Didn't men's gymnastics win the Big Ten championship like 2 years ago? Maybe even last year? If not, I know they're always competitive.