Game Thread: Illinois at Purdue
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What talent to do you see? We consistently are out played and out match in every aspect of the game.
We really don't do anything particularly well.
TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
I did.... But it's like a train wreck, I can't turn away... and there's no one around to vent to
Jordan hurt?
Gotta be 8-2 after this loss.
We need to send our recruiters to the lab Haas was grown in.
Did the Monstars steal all of Tracy Abrams talent? He literally can't shot from anywhere.
#WeWillWin
Lost in translations:
1) "We had a good practice" = The coaches talked a LOT
2) "We had a bad practice" = We talked .... this week ....what we talked the previous week
3) "We did not play as we had practiced" = The kids forgot what we talked during practice (#1)
4) "We need to clean up" = Coaches need to talk a lot more
5) "Obviously" = What? Why that look? Why that thought? OK, ask the question, that is how you make your living ............
6) "Not to take anything from them" = We did bad
7) "We are better than that" = We did not coach
8) "One can only take care of the present" = Forget the future
1) "We had a good practice" = The coaches talked a LOT
2) "We had a bad practice" = We talked .... this week ....what we talked the previous week
3) "We did not play as we had practiced" = The kids forgot what we talked during practice (#1)
4) "We need to clean up" = Coaches need to talk a lot more
5) "Obviously" = What? Why that look? Why that thought? OK, ask the question, that is how you make your living ............
6) "Not to take anything from them" = We did bad
7) "We are better than that" = We did not coach
8) "One can only take care of the present" = Forget the future
GortTheRobot
- North Bethesda, Maryland
We are giving up as a team, just individual guys trying to do anything they can. This would be annoying at the YMCA.
TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
Totally agree. But I really don't think that's a talent issue. Hill, Black, JCL, and Mav are all high level B1G players IMO, but they're playing in a system that doesn't give them a chance to succeed.
Jordan is not hurt, but he's clearly out of the mix. He just doesn't make us better on either end of the court (and yes, I know that it doesn't get much worse -- but that's even more telling).
Nice kid. I like his work ethic and his attitude. But unfortunately, I think he's a mid-major player.
Would LOVE to see more DJW though...
idk.....Chip Kelly?
I'm starting to think you asked Tracy out on a date and he turned you down.
My 25 point loss prediction that I was bashed for in the pregame thread may have been too conservative...
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I mentioned it after the Maryland game and I will bring it up in the middle of today's game. College basketball is all about guard play, ESPECIALLY on the road. They get the offense set up, they control tempo....Everything flows. This doesn't even take into consideration the big shot taker/maker aspect of having quality guards. On the defensive side...If you lack good, solid backcourt play, it's a killer. Consistently getting broken down on the dribble drive, allowing easy interior feeds, etc.....Creates complete defensive breakdowns.
Look at our guards tonight and pretty much all year against good competition. Less games where we shot out of our minds from three(Michigan), it's been bad, most notably on the road. Turnovers, poor shot selection, shots late in the shot clock, unable to break a press(West Virginia), defensive breakdowns allowing for layups or uncontested threes......
JCL, Tate, Abrams, Lucas....I would say JCL is a specialist, at best, Tate and Abrams wouldn't be starting for anybody but Rutgers(and us) and the jury is still out on Lucas.
So, I put this more on Groce's recruiting than coaching. I suspect they'd look different with Snider or Evans on the floor. I'll never bash a student athlete, but at some point you do have to recognize a talent deficiency at some positions. Right now, Black and Hill would start on most Big Ten teams....Outside of that, it's a NIT(maybe) roster.
Look at our guards tonight and pretty much all year against good competition. Less games where we shot out of our minds from three(Michigan), it's been bad, most notably on the road. Turnovers, poor shot selection, shots late in the shot clock, unable to break a press(West Virginia), defensive breakdowns allowing for layups or uncontested threes......
JCL, Tate, Abrams, Lucas....I would say JCL is a specialist, at best, Tate and Abrams wouldn't be starting for anybody but Rutgers(and us) and the jury is still out on Lucas.
So, I put this more on Groce's recruiting than coaching. I suspect they'd look different with Snider or Evans on the floor. I'll never bash a student athlete, but at some point you do have to recognize a talent deficiency at some positions. Right now, Black and Hill would start on most Big Ten teams....Outside of that, it's a NIT(maybe) roster.
purcy51
- Nappanee, IN
Idk either. It's become so bad that I've lost almost all interest in college ball. Not even sure who is/will be available
Dude would've been a stud if he went to Wisconsin, IMO. Player development has just been incredibly lackluster here.
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