Chicago White Sox 2024

The Chicago White Sox — 120 losses. Who would have believed that just three years ago?

It’s not easy to lose 120 games in a season. In fact, it’s almost impossible. Yet, that’s what the current version of our beloved White Sox franchise has done. And there is more losing yet to come.

This season is a disgrace to every player who has put on the Sox uniform. It’s a disgrace to...

Luke Appling... Minnie Minoso... Frank Thomas.. Luis Aparicio... Jose Abreu... Billy Pierce... Paul Konerko... Mark Buehrle... Bill Melton... Dick Allen...Jim Landis... Ken Berry... Foxie... and all other Sox players over the past 100 years. It’s sad reminder for we Sox fans about how the franchise we care about has been mismanaged and ignored and left to rot in front of the entire Baseball world.

Yes, it’s damned hard to lose that many games in a single season. Yet this group of White Sox... as constructed by those who have led this franchise for forty years... and found a way to do it.

Let it be known, Sox Nation, that none of this was our fault. We’re doing our part by still caring about this team when the franchise has done so little to earn our loyalty since Bill Veeck left. It’s not even mostly the fault of the players today who are just woefully inadequate to compete on a Major League level. No, that’s not where the fault lies.

Let it also be known that We Deserve Better. This franchise today is no reflection on us. We are winners who know who we choose to support and why for our own personal reasons... and we find reasons beyond the agony of all this losing.

Hold your heads up, Sox fans. No one can accuse us of being like those who just tag along with whoever is winning at the moment. We stay because we found a reason to stay – and care.

This franchise may be owned by some guy who mostly hides and wanted to buy the Mets. But don’t let that fool you. This franchise is ours and belongs to Chicago as civic legacy like the lakefront or all the big skyscrapers that cover the horizon.

‘It Might Be... It Could Be... It IS!’ That’s what Harry used to say. And one day if God wills it so for this franchise and for we fans... it will be again that we reach the heights of 1959 and 2005 again and with frequency for a change. Holy Cow! You Can Put It On The Board — YES!

Until then, Sox fans, just sit back and watch the rest of history this year play itself out.

EyeoftheIllini said:

Was looking for a tip of the hat emoji, but couldn’t find one. So I’ll just say, well done.

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Can’t let this baseball season go by without a warm shout-out to the few remaining Athletics fans in the Oakland area. You are losing your team (and will likely never have one again). That stings hard... and is so permanent.

That’s where many of us Sox fans are right now. We know how you feel and we fear the future for our own favorite ball club.

When the A’s moved out of Kansas City... MLB quickly gave KC a new team. That won’t happen with Northern California. Nor might that happen if the worst happened to the Sox in Chicago.

Caring about a ball club is so personal. We each find a reason to care. And if we really care... we stick with it even when times are bad and losses are many.

You’ve have some great ball clubs in Oakland over the years. You gave the White Sox fits in the 1970s as your team was loaded and the Sox were not. That great shortstop and third basemen you had. Those good pitchers. But the Sox did give you some great battles in those years.

And now here we are... thousands of miles apart and yet so close in spirit.

All the best to you guys. And maybe send some hope that we Sox fans won’t have to suffer the same fate.

And just maybe... move to Vegas. Your Raiders should make you feel right at home.

Woohoo! Let’s get that record tonight!

Gary J said:

Woohoo! Let’s get that record tonight!

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There are all kinds of laws on the books that Corporations in America cannot put out or submit the Public to harmful products and bad business practices.

I have a suggestion. This should apply to billionaire sports franchise owners as well.

Sports franchises should not be seen as merely a nice toy for some rich guys to do with whatever they please. Franchises must be seen as a public trust and civic necessity.

And so... we need laws to protect consumers (fans) from harmful sports products (terrible teams) and Owners who willfully violate a public trust of running a city's franchise into the ground and still making a godawful fortune of money by doing that.

If an Owner meets certain criteria of failure (which can be spelled out in ‘The Law’) then they must forfeit the franchise and sell it for a bargain price to locals in the community who can afford to buy it. Yes. Do it. Pass this Law. Do this sooner rather than later.

Why am I putting this idea on the White Sox thread? Should I have put this on the Bears thread maybe?

Hmmm... Oh gee, I don’t know. Maybe YOU might have an idea why?...

Roundball Sage said:

There are all kinds of laws on the books that Corporations in America cannot put out or submit the Public to harmful products and bad business practices.

I have a suggestion. This should apply to billionaire sports franchise owners as well.

Sports franchises should not be seen as merely a nice toy for some rich guys to do with whatever they please. Franchises must be seen as a public trust and civic necessity.

And so... we need laws to protect consumers (fans) from harmful sports products (terrible teams) and Owners who willfully violate a public trust of running a city's franchise into the ground and still making a godawful fortune of money by doing that.

If an Owner meets certain criteria of failure (which can be spelled out in ‘The Law’) then they must forfeit the franchise and sell it for a bargain price to locals in the community who can afford to buy it. Yes. Do it. Pass this Law. Do this sooner rather than later.

Why am I putting this idea on the White Sox thread? Should I have put this on the Bears thread maybe?

Hmmm... Oh gee, I don’t know. Maybe YOU might have an idea why?...

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If you run for office with that platform, you have my vote. Maybe the commissioner and MLB rules committee should do that instead of changing the game like wanting starters to pitch a minimum of 6 innings. There is a luxury tax, how about a futility tax or mediocrity tax. 2 or 3 100 loss seasons in a row or 5 to 10 years without a play-off appearance and you must sell if there is a reasonable offer.

On the bright side of the 2024 season, this has taken some of the sting out of the Black Sox scandal ... half S/

splitter said:

If you run for office with that platform, you have my vote... On the bright side of the 2024 season, this has taken some of the sting out of the Black Sox scandal ... half S/

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Also, there are laws on the books about people who allow and create a 'Public Nuisance'... things like overgrown weeds or letting garbage collect in your yard. This is another way that Owners can be held accountable -- when they run their franchise into the ground and turn it into a Major Public Nuisance.

As for the Black Sox and this year's club... isn't it interesting that as the 2024 White Sox are being compared every day to a team from Cleveland (1899) and another team from New York (1962)... that in THIS year of 2024 the current team from Cleveland and both teams from New York are doing well and fans are excited about the coming Playoffs for all of them. They are in... and Sox are WAY out.

What do the Black Sox and the 2024 White Sox have in common? Both teams suffered from bad ownership. You just can't run a good business when your ownership sucks. And when that ownership doesn't... care.

splitter said:

If you run for office with that platform, you have my vote. Maybe the commissioner and MLB rules committee should do that instead of changing the game like wanting starters to pitch a minimum of 6 innings. There is a luxury tax, how about a futility tax or mediocrity tax. 2 or 3 100 loss seasons in a row or 5 to 10 years without a play-off appearance and you must sell if there is a reasonable offer.

On the bright side of the 2024 season, this has taken some of the sting out of the Black Sox scandal ... half S/

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I know you were being half sarcastic, but Sox have been in playoffs twice within last 5 years, so wouldn’t impact them. Orioles quite recently lost 100+ games in 3 of 4 years, with the outlier being the Covid year. They won the East last year and have qualified for playoffs this year with third best record in league. In today’s pro sports — unfortunately, perhaps — if teams in any league start to get bad, most tear it all down and rebuild. Sox are no different. Yes, they might be in a larger market (believe that is at least part of reason they can’t pick higher that 10 in next draft), but the rebuild blueprint is still the same essentially. It’s unfortunate that Sox may set loss record, but would one really feel any better if Sox only lost 101 games this year?

You can put it on the board! Sox win 7-0.

EyeoftheIllini said:

I know you were being half sarcastic, but Sox have been in playoffs twice within last 5 years, so wouldn’t impact them. Orioles quite recently lost 100+ games in 3 of 4 years, with the outlier being the Covid year. They won the East last year and have qualified for playoffs this year with third best record in league. In today’s pro sports — unfortunately, perhaps — if teams in any league start to get bad, most tear it all down and rebuild. Sox are no different. Yes, they might be in a larger market (believe that is at least part of reason they can’t pick higher that 10 in next draft), but the rebuild blueprint is still the same essentially. It’s unfortunate that Sox may set loss record, but would one really feel any better if Sox only lost 101 games this year?

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Those two play-off teams were the first back-to-back appearances by the Sox ever ever in well over 100 tears. Lots of teams have lost 100+ games but basically only their fans remember much about those years. The record that was just tied and could be about to be broken will be remembered by one and all for a long long time. i should probably apologize to the one Mets fan i know. His approaching 100 years old and we were relentless in making fun of him for his choice of teams to follow. Sorry Dale., who knew.

splitter said:

Those two play-off teams were the first back-to-back appearances by the Sox ever ever in well over 100 tears. Lots of teams have lost 100+ games but basically only their fans remember much about those years. The record that was just tied and could be about to be broken will be remembered by one and all for a long long time. i should probably apologize to the one Mets fan i know. His approaching 100 years old and we were relentless in making fun of him for his choice of teams to follow. Sorry Dale., who knew.

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I did not realize that about consecutive playoff appearances. So you mean that Reinsdorf has been owner for one of the three White Sox World Series and the first consecutive playoff appearances in well over one hundred years? Damn.

I know two Mets fans and neither is happy about the Mets potentially losing the record.