Being an Illini Fan at a Rival University

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Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
This is a very personal thread; please feel free to merge it into any existing thread. I am posting it as an individual thread as I could not find an existing one that seems suitable.

I have just defended my PhD dissertation and am approaching the conclusion of my 5-year academic journey as an international student at the University of Illinois. Reflecting on this journey, I am very thankful to the Fighting Illini basketball team and this IllinoisLoyalty forum, which has been very meaningful for me find a sense of belonging as an international student.

Let me quote a paragraph from my dissertation acknowledgements: "Here is what I wrote in spring 2021 to Ayo Dosunmu, a then-Illinois basketball player who has now completed his third year in the NBA: 'When coming to Champaign in 2019, I knew nobody and had no friends. The PhD life is kind of monotonous and isolated … There were many times when I was overwhelmed with my research work, and what I looked forward to the most were the coming matches ... that’s when I finally felt I was REALLY a part of Illinois.' I truly meant it. Being isolated from family and friends during the global pandemic and overwhelmed by political depression, what made me feel the vibrancy of life was joining other Illini basketball fans in cheering for our team and booing the opponents and referees during the home games at State Farm Center, away games at local bars, and the Big Ten Tournament at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. With so many unforgettable moments of both sweetness and bitterness, being a sports fan gave me an irreplaceable sense of belonging to the community."

In addition to expressing my gratitude, I would also like to hear your suggestions on "being an Illini fan at a rival university." My entire life in the US has been spent in Champaign, so my only experience with sports fandom is being surrounded by fellow Illini fans. My next role will be as an assistant professor at the University of Missouri (well...), and I am curious if you have any advice for living in a campus town where most people do not support the Illini. Is there anything to be cautious of? For example, do you think it is advisable for me to reveal to my students who I support during the Braggin' Rights game:ROFLMAO:? But no matter what, I will always be loyal to the Illini for the rest of my life.

I'll end this thread by once again quoting the last paragraph of my dissertation acknowledgements: "Five years ago, when I first arrived in Champaign-Urbana, I could hardly imagine what life would be like in this foreign land. Now, reflecting on this journey 'By the rivers gently flowing, by the prairies verdant growing,' nothing can better express my feelings than this Chinese poem written over a thousand years ago:
'As a sojourner in Bingzhou, it has already been ten years,
Day and night, my heart longs for my hometown, Xianyang.
For no reason, I further cross the Sang’gan River,
Looking back at Bingzhou, realizing it is now my home.'
I bleed orange and blue."
 
#3      
This is a very personal thread; please feel free to merge it into any existing thread. I am posting it as an individual thread as I could not find an existing one that seems suitable.

I have just defended my PhD dissertation and am approaching the conclusion of my 5-year academic journey as an international student at the University of Illinois. Reflecting on this journey, I am very thankful to the Fighting Illini basketball team and this IllinoisLoyalty forum, which has been very meaningful for me find a sense of belonging as an international student.

Let me quote a paragraph from my dissertation acknowledgements: "Here is what I wrote in spring 2021 to Ayo Dosunmu, a then-Illinois basketball player who has now completed his third year in the NBA: 'When coming to Champaign in 2019, I knew nobody and had no friends. The PhD life is kind of monotonous and isolated … There were many times when I was overwhelmed with my research work, and what I looked forward to the most were the coming matches ... that’s when I finally felt I was REALLY a part of Illinois.' I truly meant it. Being isolated from family and friends during the global pandemic and overwhelmed by political depression, what made me feel the vibrancy of life was joining other Illini basketball fans in cheering for our team and booing the opponents and referees during the home games at State Farm Center, away games at local bars, and the Big Ten Tournament at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. With so many unforgettable moments of both sweetness and bitterness, being a sports fan gave me an irreplaceable sense of belonging to the community."

In addition to expressing my gratitude, I would also like to hear your suggestions on "being an Illini fan at a rival university." My entire life in the US has been spent in Champaign, so my only experience with sports fandom is being surrounded by fellow Illini fans. My next role will be as an assistant professor at the University of Missouri (well...), and I am curious if you have any advice for living in a campus town where most people do not support the Illini. Is there anything to be cautious of? For example, do you think it is advisable for me to reveal to my students who I support during the Braggin' Rights game:ROFLMAO:? But no matter what, I will always be loyal to the Illini for the rest of my life.

I'll end this thread by once again quoting the last paragraph of my dissertation acknowledgements: "Five years ago, when I first arrived in Champaign-Urbana, I could hardly imagine what life would be like in this foreign land. Now, reflecting on this journey 'By the rivers gently flowing, by the prairies verdant growing,' nothing can better express my feelings than this Chinese poem written over a thousand years ago:
'As a sojourner in Bingzhou, it has already been ten years,
Day and night, my heart longs for my hometown, Xianyang.
For no reason, I further cross the Sang’gan River,
Looking back at Bingzhou, realizing it is now my home.'
I bleed orange and blue."

Congratulations on an outstanding achievement of completing your PhD at the beloved... :)
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
My next role will be as an assistant professor at the University of Missouri (well...), and I am curious if you have any advice for living in a campus town where most people do not support the Illini. Is there anything to be cautious of? For example, do you think it is advisable for me to reveal to my students who I support during the Braggin' Rights game:ROFLMAO:?

Ig Shang....massive congrats fellow alumni!!
Now, your mission...should you choose to accept it....is to mercilessly troll Miznoz students, faculty, and fans by wearing orange and blue every WeWillWednesday and intentionally misspelling "Missou, and Missouri" at every opportunity. I recommend "Miznoz" for optimum troll effect.

If they mention football, just pretend that you don't know what that is. For now.

Good luck!! :illinois: :alma-mater:
 
#6      
I grew up in central Illinois and have been an Illini fan all my life. My dad is an Illini alumni and is now very successful in what he does. As much as I have continued to love our sports teams, I decided that the University wasn’t really for me. I couldn’t, however, see myself going to a similar caliber university that could potentially have sports programs to rival the Illini.

I settled on Florida Gulf Coast University as they offered the major that I intended to study and were a pretty off the radar university in the sporting world.

I have truly loved attending FGCU as I can continue to show undying support for my Illini while enjoying the luxuries of one of the most beautiful college campuses I have ever seen.

This does have its downsides. The main struggle I continue to have is the complete absence of others that share the same passion as I do for the Illini, especially our basketball program. My roommates are all from the state of Florida and are really only fans of the NFL and NHL. They simply do not understand how I can get so emotional for every single possession, offensive and defensive, to which I have to explain is a combination of my lifelong passion and alcohol.

During our dominant win over Iowa St in March I was genuinely going apeshit over our performance and a neighbor came to complain about my noise level. You can only imagine the sheer panic that overcame me when I had to try to explain to this girl why I was drinking and screaming at my TV alone on a weekday at 10pm (something that I am sure is a lot more normal at the U if I compared to my quiet little university).

So I think to answer your question it depends on the relevancy of the other school’s sporting program. Obviously you’re attending the university of a direct rival which could definitely present itself as a challenge. I would just recommend finding a way to support the Illini however you can. While watching the games alone is an option, it’s up to you to decide if it’s worth your sanity 😭
 
#7      

drsmitty74

Rochester
You bleed the O &B like everyone else here. Wear it proud, wear the O & B heart on your sleeves for all to see..........literally..........head to toe O&B.......... at least at Braggin Rights Day. At the Braggin Rights game, you'll have more than 50% of the crowd to back you up should anyone cause a fellow alum grief, but as for walking around campus............well...........I'd say follow that O & B heart you now have. ;)
 
#8      
In addition to expressing my gratitude, I would also like to hear your suggestions on "being an Illini fan at a rival university." My entire life in the US has been spent in Champaign, so my only experience with sports fandom is being surrounded by fellow Illini fans. My next role will be as an assistant professor at the University of Missouri (well...), and I am curious if you have any advice for living in a campus town where most people do not support the Illini. Is there anything to be cautious of? For example, do you think it is advisable for me to reveal to my students who I support during the Braggin' Rights game:ROFLMAO:? But no matter what, I will always be loyal to the Illini for the rest of my life.

Just make sure you get the right color and school order (Illinois on top)!

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#9      

Serious Late

Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
My wife and I went to U of I for Undergrad. She did her Sports Medicine Fellowship at Michigan, which required she be on the sidelines for every football game and in the first couple rows at basketball games.

She wore long orange socks under her outfits for every sporting event she worked. 😁😎🧡💙

You'll be fine, I would suggest keeping it light-hearted with the locals. 🙂
 
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Do MO students/staff care about the basketball team? They don't seem to buy out their half of the Braggin' Rights game. If not, this may be a non-issue.

Showing IL stuff in your office can be a conversation starter if you have trouble meeting other faculty. It might also break the ice for nervous students who come to the office. They see it, comment, you talk a few minutes, and now you are a person vs. the scary professor.

If the MO campus is passionate about BB, are you a person who can take/give !!!! (and enjoys it)? If so, you are probably fine. Again, it gets you to meet people.
 
#11      

Serious Late

Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
Do MO students/staff care about the basketball team? They don't seem to buy out their half of the Braggin' Rights game. If not, this may be a non-issue.

Showing IL stuff in your office can be a conversation starter if you have trouble meeting other faculty. It might also break the ice for nervous students who come to the office. They see it, comment, you talk a few minutes, and now you are a person vs. the scary professor.

If the MO campus is passionate about BB, are you a person who can take/give !!!! (and enjoys it)? If so, you are probably fine. Again, it gets you to meet people.
That is a beautiful thing about sports in general. Helps break down barriers. No one cares if you are from Illinois, Missouri, Africa or Asia if your comfortable sitting around talking college hoops. It's all game to all of us.
 
#12      

whatahack

St. Peters MO
As a life long Illini fan growing up on the east side of the metro st louis area, I have now lived in Missouri more than half my life.

When asked if I am now a mizzery fan and what I am doing living here then. My standard answers are:
Hell no
and
I'm doing the chief's work, like a missionary, trying to educate the uneducated.

Best of luck living in Columbia....
 
#14      

Captain 14

The Last Best Place
This is a very personal thread; please feel free to merge it into any existing thread. I am posting it as an individual thread as I could not find an existing one that seems suitable.

I have just defended my PhD dissertation and am approaching the conclusion of my 5-year academic journey as an international student at the University of Illinois. Reflecting on this journey, I am very thankful to the Fighting Illini basketball team and this IllinoisLoyalty forum, which has been very meaningful for me find a sense of belonging as an international student.

Let me quote a paragraph from my dissertation acknowledgements: "Here is what I wrote in spring 2021 to Ayo Dosunmu, a then-Illinois basketball player who has now completed his third year in the NBA: 'When coming to Champaign in 2019, I knew nobody and had no friends. The PhD life is kind of monotonous and isolated … There were many times when I was overwhelmed with my research work, and what I looked forward to the most were the coming matches ... that’s when I finally felt I was REALLY a part of Illinois.' I truly meant it. Being isolated from family and friends during the global pandemic and overwhelmed by political depression, what made me feel the vibrancy of life was joining other Illini basketball fans in cheering for our team and booing the opponents and referees during the home games at State Farm Center, away games at local bars, and the Big Ten Tournament at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. With so many unforgettable moments of both sweetness and bitterness, being a sports fan gave me an irreplaceable sense of belonging to the community."

In addition to expressing my gratitude, I would also like to hear your suggestions on "being an Illini fan at a rival university." My entire life in the US has been spent in Champaign, so my only experience with sports fandom is being surrounded by fellow Illini fans. My next role will be as an assistant professor at the University of Missouri (well...), and I am curious if you have any advice for living in a campus town where most people do not support the Illini. Is there anything to be cautious of? For example, do you think it is advisable for me to reveal to my students who I support during the Braggin' Rights game:ROFLMAO:? But no matter what, I will always be loyal to the Illini for the rest of my life.

I'll end this thread by once again quoting the last paragraph of my dissertation acknowledgements: "Five years ago, when I first arrived in Champaign-Urbana, I could hardly imagine what life would be like in this foreign land. Now, reflecting on this journey 'By the rivers gently flowing, by the prairies verdant growing,' nothing can better express my feelings than this Chinese poem written over a thousand years ago:
'As a sojourner in Bingzhou, it has already been ten years,
Day and night, my heart longs for my hometown, Xianyang.
For no reason, I further cross the Sang’gan River,
Looking back at Bingzhou, realizing it is now my home.'
I bleed orange and blue."
Thank you for your most amazing perspective.
 
#16      

altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
This is a very personal thread; please feel free to merge it into any existing thread. I am posting it as an individual thread as I could not find an existing one that seems suitable.

I have just defended my PhD dissertation and am approaching the conclusion of my 5-year academic journey as an international student at the University of Illinois. Reflecting on this journey, I am very thankful to the Fighting Illini basketball team and this IllinoisLoyalty forum, which has been very meaningful for me find a sense of belonging as an international student.

Let me quote a paragraph from my dissertation acknowledgements: "Here is what I wrote in spring 2021 to Ayo Dosunmu, a then-Illinois basketball player who has now completed his third year in the NBA: 'When coming to Champaign in 2019, I knew nobody and had no friends. The PhD life is kind of monotonous and isolated … There were many times when I was overwhelmed with my research work, and what I looked forward to the most were the coming matches ... that’s when I finally felt I was REALLY a part of Illinois.' I truly meant it. Being isolated from family and friends during the global pandemic and overwhelmed by political depression, what made me feel the vibrancy of life was joining other Illini basketball fans in cheering for our team and booing the opponents and referees during the home games at State Farm Center, away games at local bars, and the Big Ten Tournament at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. With so many unforgettable moments of both sweetness and bitterness, being a sports fan gave me an irreplaceable sense of belonging to the community."

In addition to expressing my gratitude, I would also like to hear your suggestions on "being an Illini fan at a rival university." My entire life in the US has been spent in Champaign, so my only experience with sports fandom is being surrounded by fellow Illini fans. My next role will be as an assistant professor at the University of Missouri (well...), and I am curious if you have any advice for living in a campus town where most people do not support the Illini. Is there anything to be cautious of? For example, do you think it is advisable for me to reveal to my students who I support during the Braggin' Rights game:ROFLMAO:? But no matter what, I will always be loyal to the Illini for the rest of my life.

I'll end this thread by once again quoting the last paragraph of my dissertation acknowledgements: "Five years ago, when I first arrived in Champaign-Urbana, I could hardly imagine what life would be like in this foreign land. Now, reflecting on this journey 'By the rivers gently flowing, by the prairies verdant growing,' nothing can better express my feelings than this Chinese poem written over a thousand years ago:
'As a sojourner in Bingzhou, it has already been ten years,
Day and night, my heart longs for my hometown, Xianyang.
For no reason, I further cross the Sang’gan River,
Looking back at Bingzhou, realizing it is now my home.'
I bleed orange and blue."
Lie low until you notch tenure. Then let your O&B freak flag fly, my man.;) Or, better yet, trade up for a faculty spot at UIUC!

Loved your passionate, heartfelt posts and noticed you went relatively quiet over the past b-ball campaign on the Board. Massive congrats on your PhD. It's quite an accomplishment to snag a Tier-I research university spot straight away. Testament to your hard work and the quality of the infosci program.

It's wonderful that Illini hoops helped you feel at home so far from Xianyang. Don't be a stranger.

:illinois::alma-mater:
 
#17      
Congratulations on your PhD and new job! As a Cardinals fan in Chicago, I say wear your orange and blue openly and proudly. Most people respect if you are dedicated and loyal in your fandom! You seem to live and die it and that will come across!

I openly hang out regularly at a Cubs bar in Wrigleyville with the managers/staff and they know where I stand on that topic....I don't hide it. Trust me there are plenty of cubs fans that they wish wouldn't hang out there. people tend to accept kind and respectful people even if they don't share the same side of a passion
 
#18      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
Loved the last poem and how it fits into your sentiment.
Thank you! I am glad you loved it. I believe the most charming part of literary works is that you can always find a piece written hundreds of years ago that feels like it was written precisely for you at this moment.
 
#19      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
Ig Shang....massive congrats fellow alumni!!
Now, your mission...should you choose to accept it....is to mercilessly troll Miznoz students, faculty, and fans by wearing orange and blue every WeWillWednesday and intentionally misspelling "Missou, and Missouri" at every opportunity. I recommend "Miznoz" for optimum troll effect.

If they mention football, just pretend that you don't know what that is. For now.

Good luck!! :illinois: :alma-mater:
Well, Illinois was 8-5 while Missouri was 6-7 in football in 2022, so I guess I am good in those conversations too.
 
#20      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
I grew up in central Illinois and have been an Illini fan all my life. My dad is an Illini alumni and is now very successful in what he does. As much as I have continued to love our sports teams, I decided that the University wasn’t really for me. I couldn’t, however, see myself going to a similar caliber university that could potentially have sports programs to rival the Illini.

I settled on Florida Gulf Coast University as they offered the major that I intended to study and were a pretty off the radar university in the sporting world.

I have truly loved attending FGCU as I can continue to show undying support for my Illini while enjoying the luxuries of one of the most beautiful college campuses I have ever seen.

This does have its downsides. The main struggle I continue to have is the complete absence of others that share the same passion as I do for the Illini, especially our basketball program. My roommates are all from the state of Florida and are really only fans of the NFL and NHL. They simply do not understand how I can get so emotional for every single possession, offensive and defensive, to which I have to explain is a combination of my lifelong passion and alcohol.

During our dominant win over Iowa St in March I was genuinely going apeshit over our performance and a neighbor came to complain about my noise level. You can only imagine the sheer panic that overcame me when I had to try to explain to this girl why I was drinking and screaming at my TV alone on a weekday at 10pm (something that I am sure is a lot more normal at the U if I compared to my quiet little university).

So I think to answer your question it depends on the relevancy of the other school’s sporting program. Obviously you’re attending the university of a direct rival which could definitely present itself as a challenge. I would just recommend finding a way to support the Illini however you can. While watching the games alone is an option, it’s up to you to decide if it’s worth your sanity 😭
Thanks, my friend, for sharing this. I completely understand the experience of "complete absence of others that share the same passion as you do for the Illini." Back home in China, although many of my friends are huge sports fans, they do not watch NCAA at all (which is why the conversations I have had in this forum mean so much to me). Good luck with your life at FGCU, and I believe we will both find ways to support the Illini in our own ways.
 
#21      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
My wife and I went to U of I for Undergrad. She did her Sports Medicine Fellowship at Michigan, which required she be on the sidelines for every football game and in the first couple rows at basketball games.

She wore long orange socks under her outfits for every sporting event she worked. 😁😎🧡💙

You'll be fine, I would suggest keeping it light-hearted with the locals. 🙂
I did meet a guy at the State Farm Center during an Illinois-Michigan game a few years ago. He did his undergraduate studies at Michigan and was attending graduate school at Illinois at the time. He wore an Illinois jersey with a Michigan cap and took the cap off when his photo was being taken:LOL:
 
#22      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
Do MO students/staff care about the basketball team? They don't seem to buy out their half of the Braggin' Rights game. If not, this may be a non-issue.

Showing IL stuff in your office can be a conversation starter if you have trouble meeting other faculty. It might also break the ice for nervous students who come to the office. They see it, comment, you talk a few minutes, and now you are a person vs. the scary professor.

If the MO campus is passionate about BB, are you a person who can take/give !!!! (and enjoys it)? If so, you are probably fine. Again, it gets you to meet people.
Great point. I started a small talk with a newly-joined staff member in my department with the Oakland University banner he had in his office. He was surprised I knew the university, and I was like: "Well, you folks just defeated Kentucky in March Madness!" I’ll do something similar in my office.
 
#23      
This is a very personal thread; please feel free to merge it into any existing thread. I am posting it as an individual thread as I could not find an existing one that seems suitable.

I have just defended my PhD dissertation and am approaching the conclusion of my 5-year academic journey as an international student at the University of Illinois. Reflecting on this journey, I am very thankful to the Fighting Illini basketball team and this IllinoisLoyalty forum, which has been very meaningful for me find a sense of belonging as an international student.

Let me quote a paragraph from my dissertation acknowledgements: "Here is what I wrote in spring 2021 to Ayo Dosunmu, a then-Illinois basketball player who has now completed his third year in the NBA: 'When coming to Champaign in 2019, I knew nobody and had no friends. The PhD life is kind of monotonous and isolated … There were many times when I was overwhelmed with my research work, and what I looked forward to the most were the coming matches ... that’s when I finally felt I was REALLY a part of Illinois.' I truly meant it. Being isolated from family and friends during the global pandemic and overwhelmed by political depression, what made me feel the vibrancy of life was joining other Illini basketball fans in cheering for our team and booing the opponents and referees during the home games at State Farm Center, away games at local bars, and the Big Ten Tournament at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. With so many unforgettable moments of both sweetness and bitterness, being a sports fan gave me an irreplaceable sense of belonging to the community."

In addition to expressing my gratitude, I would also like to hear your suggestions on "being an Illini fan at a rival university." My entire life in the US has been spent in Champaign, so my only experience with sports fandom is being surrounded by fellow Illini fans. My next role will be as an assistant professor at the University of Missouri (well...), and I am curious if you have any advice for living in a campus town where most people do not support the Illini. Is there anything to be cautious of? For example, do you think it is advisable for me to reveal to my students who I support during the Braggin' Rights game:ROFLMAO:? But no matter what, I will always be loyal to the Illini for the rest of my life.

I'll end this thread by once again quoting the last paragraph of my dissertation acknowledgements: "Five years ago, when I first arrived in Champaign-Urbana, I could hardly imagine what life would be like in this foreign land. Now, reflecting on this journey 'By the rivers gently flowing, by the prairies verdant growing,' nothing can better express my feelings than this Chinese poem written over a thousand years ago:
'As a sojourner in Bingzhou, it has already been ten years,
Day and night, my heart longs for my hometown, Xianyang.
For no reason, I further cross the Sang’gan River,
Looking back at Bingzhou, realizing it is now my home.'
I bleed orange and blue."
What a heartfelt expression of Illinois loyalty! I salute you, your recent academic achievement and your new position at U of Mo.

I graduated more than 50 years ago from U of I and My loyalty remains unabated. I especially love their basketball program and live and die with each turn of events. I've only spent maybe four years in Illinois since graduation, and my time has been spent primarily in Wisconsin, Missouri and Florida, with Europe and Washington state thrown in.

Living in "hostile" territory most of my life, I've never embraced any of the schools where rivalries exist with the beloved (Missouri and Wisconsin.) However, I remained in a light, frivolous relationship with fans of those state schools.
Enjoy Missouri! Embrace their lifestyle, make friends with fans of their teams, go to their hangouts and use humor to express your differences.
Life is too short not to enjoy sports for what it is-- a diversion from real life and a way to meet and bond with fellow fans, even if you don't see eye to eye on your first love.
And... remember who signs your paycheck!
 
#24      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
Lie low until you notch tenure. Then let your O&B freak flag fly, my man.;) Or, better yet, trade up for a faculty spot at UIUC!

Loved your passionate, heartfelt posts and noticed you went relatively quiet over the past b-ball campaign on the Board. Massive congrats on your PhD. It's quite an accomplishment to snag a Tier-I research university spot straight away. Testament to your hard work and the quality of the infosci program.

It's wonderful that Illini hoops helped you feel at home so far from Xianyang. Don't be a stranger.

:illinois::alma-mater:
Thanks so much for this warm words. And a sidenote: I am not really from Xianyang. That was the hometown of the poet a thousand years ago☺️
 
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